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In the attached notice that the two F-5A fly at 20,000ft (above SA-8b ceiling taking into account also the battery's altitude) but they are effectively engaged by the SAM system. Map location in picture

In meters I see them flying at 6096 m, that is the ceiling of the Gecko.

what am I looking at here?

You are looking at a general description of the unit from descriptions put together by the community. The game stats are what is Nikel is showing. That is one of the most basic concepts of the game, isn't it.

WAD

The descriptions add a lot to the game, encyclopedic value.

In this case however, the data are different to the db, that is what CMO uses, and may cause confusion.

Nikel wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 5:42 am The descriptions add a lot to the game, encyclopedic value.

In this case however, the data are different to the db, that is what CMO uses, and may cause confusion.

Thanks. I assumed that information would be consistent throughout. If anyone would like to burn tokens, I guess that could be an useful project: go through DB data and amend descriptions for consistency

Knightpawn wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 7:42 am
Thanks. I assumed that information would be consistent throughout. If anyone would like to burn tokens, I guess that could be an useful project: go through DB data and amend descriptions for consistency

That looks like something the AI would do in second, while a human would never finish in his life time



Regarding the topic of the scenario, there was this change in 1825.15. If the ACs try to ascend fast, the missile may impact you even beyond the ceiling+launcher altitude, the Gecko must be one of this missiles.

TWEAK: Weapons with a loft trajectory can zoom-climb to an altitude higher than the ceiling of their propulsion-defined altitude, as part of their trajectory arc. This leads to a more efficient intercept trajectory.