Alamo at Soest - nitpicking about Polish equipment
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2026 5:09 pm
Hi!
I'm playing the tournament and the "Alamo at Soest" scenario. I have a few thoughts on Polish equipment and nomenclature which you might (?) find useful,
1) It caught my eye that the CAS for the Polish 12th Mechanised Div. is provided by the Czechoslovak Aero L-59. This type of aircraft has never been adopted into service in the Polish Air Force. To the best of my knowledge, a Su 20/22 would be a more natural choice for a CAS for PAF at that time (a pair of Su22M4 are already providing the SEAD element in the scenario). The direct equivalent of L-59 was an indigenous attack/trainer TS11 Iskra Bis, but its bomb load was too poor (4 x 50 kg) for what the L-59s are supposed to do in this scenario
Or perhaps is it the Czechoslovak Air Force that is supposed to provide CAS in the post-nuclear mayhem reality of this scenario but I missed this in the description?
Some sources on Su 20/22 and TS11 from the Polish Aviation Museum:
https://muzeumlotnictwa.pl/en/exhibits/suchoj-su-20-2/
https://muzeumlotnictwa.pl/en/exhibits/ ... m4-3005-2/ (the museum hasn't updated the website but SU22M4 were finally retired in 2025)
https://muzeumlotnictwa.pl/en/exhibits/ ... a-bis-b-2/
2) On a small note, I was suprised to see OT-65A Wydra as a choice for a recon vehicle (the recon element of the engineering company use one vehicle). Allegedly about a 100 of those vehicles have been indeed adopted by the Polish Army, so maybe the scenario designer was correct, but I found no evidence for it being used by the 12th (if you have one, I'd be very curious to see some info on that!). On the other hand, I found that the Cold War period the 12th used in this role "predominantly BRDM-2s" (source - the official website of the unit, which is still a division in the modern Polish Army: https://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/12dz/historiaitradycje/). Other recon units in this scenario also use BRDM-2s. So, I'm just curious why the OT-65A. OT-65A is a distant derivative and functionally similar to BRDM, so it's more about the historical accuracy than any practical consequences for the gameplay.
3) The apogeum of nitpicking: the official Polish abbreviation for colonel ("pułkownik") is "płk", not "Pk." And it's actually a punctuation error to add the "." at the end.
I'm really enjoying the scenario (and the game in general) very much.
I'm playing the tournament and the "Alamo at Soest" scenario. I have a few thoughts on Polish equipment and nomenclature which you might (?) find useful,
1) It caught my eye that the CAS for the Polish 12th Mechanised Div. is provided by the Czechoslovak Aero L-59. This type of aircraft has never been adopted into service in the Polish Air Force. To the best of my knowledge, a Su 20/22 would be a more natural choice for a CAS for PAF at that time (a pair of Su22M4 are already providing the SEAD element in the scenario). The direct equivalent of L-59 was an indigenous attack/trainer TS11 Iskra Bis, but its bomb load was too poor (4 x 50 kg) for what the L-59s are supposed to do in this scenario
Or perhaps is it the Czechoslovak Air Force that is supposed to provide CAS in the post-nuclear mayhem reality of this scenario but I missed this in the description?
Some sources on Su 20/22 and TS11 from the Polish Aviation Museum:
https://muzeumlotnictwa.pl/en/exhibits/suchoj-su-20-2/
https://muzeumlotnictwa.pl/en/exhibits/ ... m4-3005-2/ (the museum hasn't updated the website but SU22M4 were finally retired in 2025)
https://muzeumlotnictwa.pl/en/exhibits/ ... a-bis-b-2/
2) On a small note, I was suprised to see OT-65A Wydra as a choice for a recon vehicle (the recon element of the engineering company use one vehicle). Allegedly about a 100 of those vehicles have been indeed adopted by the Polish Army, so maybe the scenario designer was correct, but I found no evidence for it being used by the 12th (if you have one, I'd be very curious to see some info on that!). On the other hand, I found that the Cold War period the 12th used in this role "predominantly BRDM-2s" (source - the official website of the unit, which is still a division in the modern Polish Army: https://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/12dz/historiaitradycje/). Other recon units in this scenario also use BRDM-2s. So, I'm just curious why the OT-65A. OT-65A is a distant derivative and functionally similar to BRDM, so it's more about the historical accuracy than any practical consequences for the gameplay.
3) The apogeum of nitpicking: the official Polish abbreviation for colonel ("pułkownik") is "płk", not "Pk." And it's actually a punctuation error to add the "." at the end.
I'm really enjoying the scenario (and the game in general) very much.