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VP and leaders

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2026 1:06 pm
by johantje1983
I’m playing the game as the Axis now. I wonder if the VP distribution actually allows the Axis to win. I’m also losing a lot of beachhead units because they can no longer move due to fatigue, and the Allied player gets VPs for eliminating them. I like the unit counters featuring leaders, but I wonder if the leaders actually have any impact on the battlefield. Also, the 12th SS is represented as a regular unit, whereas they were actually quite elite.

Re: VP and leaders

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2026 6:44 pm
by Timian
By this time in the war, training-wise, the SS were equal perhaps a little better than the Herr. However, because of their equipment and TOE (i.e., three Panzer Grenadier Battalions in a Regiment) their Divisions had greater combat power and resilience. Giving them a quality of four does not match resent publications like "Sand and Steel" (Caddick-Adams) and "Normandy 1944" (Zetterlin).

But if you feel the 12th SS or other SS Divisions deserve a higher Quality Rating, you can mod this via the Editor.

As to leaders, "Panzer Meyer's" leadership (25th SS Panzer Grenadier Kamphgruppen) in the 12th SS's Counterattack vs. the Canadians (on 7th June) made a significant difference (hence the +2 rating).

Victory Points . . . A German Victory is possible (saw it in Alpha Testing) . . . But you must "husband" your forces.


Don.

Re: VP and leaders

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2026 10:19 am
by johantje1983
I think the allies are favored:-)
With leader i mean the leaders it self, not the card leader.

Re: VP and leaders

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2026 2:57 pm
by Timian
If you're referring to the pictures of the Division, Corps, etc. Commanders (on the Division, Corps, etc. counters) . . . No impact on the game.

Yes . . . Given their Naval and Air Assets + Ground Troops (once ashore) the Allies are favored.

That having been said, while good for learning the game, the AI is not the tough of an opponent. Better to play vs. another person (via Multiplayer). If you're interested, let me know (you pick the side and scenario).


Don.

Re: VP and leaders

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2026 7:38 pm
by OrderInChaos
Yes, him and I are going head-to-head right now and having a blast. Because head-to-head is so fun :D We are currently on turn 15 and he is defending way forward :o :o :o :o But holding me off.