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New Doctrines Fuel State (Bingo) vs Fuel State (Joker)
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2026 12:22 am
by boogabooga
What is the difference between Fuel State (Bingo) in the Refuel section:

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and Fuel State (Joker) in the Air Ops Section:

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Re: New Doctrines Fuel State (Bingo) vs Fuel State (Joker)
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2026 7:01 am
by Nikel
They are from CMANO times.
Have they changed since then?
https://command.matrixgames.com/?p=4182
Re: New Doctrines Fuel State (Bingo) vs Fuel State (Joker)
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2026 12:25 pm
by serjames
I'm sure there used to be an "IGNORE" fuel state doctrine. Which is really useful to stop aircraft deciding they need to refuel 5 mintutes before they get to the target... It's so annoying to manually micromanage their fuel state constantly when you know there are tankers they will meet on the way back
Re: New Doctrines Fuel State (Bingo) vs Fuel State (Joker)
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 12:28 am
by boogabooga
I get the concepts, but there used to be only one doctrine, but it was called Fuel State, Pre-planned:

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I think that corresponds to Fuel State (Joker). So Fuel State (Bingo) is new.
After testing, I think it has to do with with the fuel state at which the A/C will start looking for a tanker, but that concept confounds with the mission setting for "Receivers start looking for tanker when down to _ percent of mission" in the mission Tanker Planner.
Re: New Doctrines Fuel State (Bingo) vs Fuel State (Joker)
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 6:23 am
by blu3s
I'm not sure if they refer to two different concepts,
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Re: New Doctrines Fuel State (Bingo) vs Fuel State (Joker)
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 9:14 am
by Nikel
This is how it looked like in 1328.18, before the doctrines window was reorganized.
BINGO was called "Refuel to tanker threshold".

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Re: New Doctrines Fuel State (Bingo) vs Fuel State (Joker)
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 2:25 pm
by Knightpawn
Nikel wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2026 9:14 am
This is how it looked like in 1328.18, before the doctrines window was reorganized.
BINGO was called "Refuel to tanker threshold".
DF.gif
This is much more clear as to what each function is meant to do