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Light Titan weight/Bmt oddity
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:50 am
by widowmaker
Per request by Larkin.
Light Titans have an oddity regarding weight and Bmt: the Bmt listed on the chassis selection screen is only true if the Titan weighs 70.00 exactly. Even a fraction that rounds to 70.00 in the stat box in the lower right results in a Bmt 1 sec faster than it should be. The only reason I'm complaining is because I designed a Titan that weighed 70.00, but moved 1 sec slower than I expected. When I stripped 1 mm of armor off the Head, it moved as predicted. This seems silly. Can this be adjusted? Thanks.
widowmaker
Re: Light Titan weight/Bmt oddity
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 12:12 pm
by Marga
widowmaker wrote:Can this be adjusted? Thanks.
widowmaker
This happens probably due to rounding side effects, in which case I cannot promise to be able to fix it. Please attach the titan for import/export so that I can take a look at it. Did the armor points change when removing 1mm? If not, it is not important to have 1mm less armor.
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:53 am
by widowmaker
I'm including two custom Titans: one weighs 70.00 tons and has a Bmt 1 sec less than its chassis' rating; the other weighs 69.97 tons and has room on the Head for 1 mm of Dullaroy. When that 1 mm is added, the weight increases to 70.00, and the Bmt increases 1 sec.
And yes, losing that 1 mm of armor dropped the AP. All armor locations on the Titan are like that.
widowmaker
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 10:21 am
by widowmaker
Grrrrr...
Doesn't seem to matter what I do, the file won't attach.
Plan B.
This is the Titan that weighs 70.00 and moves 1 sec faster than it should:
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Titan Name: Barrager Short Range Light Titan
Chassis: Morola L3 Design: Widowmaker
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Weight: 70.0t (70t maximum) Height : 9 [meter]
Bmt : 20 (60 kph) Reduce Heat: -2.40C/sec.
Jmt : 12 (100 kph) for 85 secs Cost : 150645($)
Equipment:
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Component/Type/Location
Engine :Morola M1 [Engine 1] [CT ]
HeatReg.:Smac Corp. [Heat 5]
LifeSup.:Livotto [Life 1] [Head]
Scanner :Mark M-S [Scan. 5] [CBT ]
Computer:Krios K5 [Comp. 5] [CT ]
JumpPort:Morola MJ [Jump 4]
Weapons:
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Location/Weapon/Ammunition/Slots
[LA ] S.R.M. 4 RACK (022) [1]
[LA ] S.R.M. 4 RACK (022) [1]
[RA ] S.R.M. 4 RACK (022) [1]
[RA ] S.R.M. 4 RACK (022) [1]
[LT ] S.R.M. 8 RACK (011) [1]
[RT ] S.R.M. 8 RACK (011) [1]
Armor:
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Loc/Internal/Armor/Status/Points/mm
[Head] (11) Dullaroy HMAX 018 [026mm]
[RT ] (17) Vicenium (W) 025 [042mm]
[CT ] (21) Dullaroy (S) 027 [039mm]
[CBT ] (11) Dullaroy (S) 020 [029mm]
[LT ] (17) Vicenium (W) 025 [042mm]
[RA ] (19) Vicenium (W) 025 [042mm]
[LA ] (19) Vicenium (W) 025 [042mm]
[LowT] (13) Vicenium (W) 025 [042mm]
[RL ] (17) Vicenium (W) 025 [042mm]
[LL ] (17) Vicenium (W) 025 [042mm]
Armor Index: 5.74 [Total APts/T]
Internal: 162 [APts]
External: 240 [APts] Max:[054mm]
Total Armor: 402 [APts]
JOCK requirements:
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Piloting: Light Titan incl. Jump
Weapons : N.G.M.
Warfare : Scanner
Skills : Medic Ind.Fire
This is the Titan that weighs 69.97 and slows when 1 mm of armor is added to the Head:
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Titan Name: Genghis Close Combat Light Titan
Chassis: Morola L3 Design: Widowmaker
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Weight: 70.0t (70t maximum) Height : 9 [meter]
Bmt : 20 (60 kph) Reduce Heat: -3.45C/sec.
Jmt : 14 (85 kph) for 64 secs Cost : 142125($)
Equipment:
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Component/Type/Location
Engine :Krios K4 [Engine 4] [CT ]
HeatReg.:Delinit H6 [Heat 6]
LifeSup.:Livotto [Life 1] [CBT ]
Scanner :Triton [Scan. 4] [LT ]
Computer:Triton TC [Comp. 4] [RT ]
JumpPort:Aerojol [Jump 2]
Weapons:
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Location/Weapon/Ammunition/Slots
[LA ] POWER AXE
[RA ] POWER AXE
[Head] MEDIUM LASER
[Head] MEDIUM LASER
Armor:
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Loc/Internal/Armor/Status/Points/mm
[Head] (11) Dullaroy 017 [025mm]
[RT ] (17) Millenia (W) 025 [050mm]
[CT ] (21) Millenia (W) 025 [050mm]
[CBT ] (11) Vicenium (W) 015 [026mm]
[LT ] (17) Millenia (W) 025 [050mm]
[RA ] (19) Vicenium (W) 025 [042mm]
[LA ] (19) Vicenium (W) 025 [042mm]
[LowT] (13) Vicenium (W) 025 [042mm]
[RL ] (17) Millenia (W) 025 [050mm]
[LL ] (17) Millenia (W) 025 [050mm]
Armor Index: 5.63 [Total APts/T]
Internal: 162 [APts]
External: 232 [APts] Max:[054mm]
Total Armor: 394 [APts]
JOCK requirements:
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Piloting: Light Titan incl. Jump
Weapons : Energy C.C.
Warfare : Scanner
Skills : Medic
widowmaker
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:54 pm
by Thorgrim
Yep, this happens in every weight class. I had already spotted the medium Tracker, which weighs 100.0002t .
The BMT shown is the max BMT, that is when the titan has the exact max weight possible (or more
). Of course, it's nearly impossible to get to the exact max weight.
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:25 am
by widowmaker
I haven't played around with the heavier Titans yet, so I wasn't sure if it affected them or not. I checked the Recon weight chasses, and all of them reached their listed Bmt several tons below 40, so when the Lights didn't, I thought it might be worth reporting.
Not an overly large issue, I'll admit, but I'm a little nitpicky. And if nitpicks are the biggest problems I can find with this game, I'm going to love it a long time.
widowmaker
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:28 am
by widowmaker
Attachments are working again, so here's the two Titans I mentioned.
widowmaker
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:37 am
by Sleeping_Dragon
Thorgrim wrote:Yep, this happens in every weight class. I had already spotted the medium Tracker, which weighs 100.0002t.
That's what.. 6 1/2 ounces? You can lose that much wieght by removing the lucky bobblehead doll and the cupholder from the cockpit