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[font=Arial][font=Arial]Airborne Assault Owners Limited Time Discount Offer[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]While the new Airborne Assault: Highway to the Reich has a host of changes and improvements since its original publication, Matrix Games and Panther Games have not forgotten the original group of Airborne Assault customers and supporters. We plan to support the new Airborne Assault series of games for a long time to come and we want to make it as easy as possible for you to join us.[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]The new retail Airborne Assault: Highway to the Reich will be priced at $49.99. Matrix Games and Panther Games are offering this same retail package to existing Airborne Assault owners for $34.99 plus $5 North America $7 International ) for shipping and handling, a discount of 30% off the retail price. In order to qualify for this discount, you must own a copy of the original Airborne Assault and you must send in your original CD in good condition to Matrix Games.[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]Instructions:[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]Please include the following in a padded envelope:[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]1. Your undamaged Airborne Assault compact disc
[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]2. A printed card with your name, phone number, e-mail address and mailing address (no PO Boxes)[/font][/font]
[font=Arial][font=Arial]3. A money order (no checks please) for $39.99 North America / $41.99 International (US Currency Only) to[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]Mail the envelope to:[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]Airborne Assault Trade In
[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]c/o Matrix Games, Inc.
[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]10 Main Street Suite 4A
[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]PMB#263
[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]Woodbridge[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial], [/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]NJ
[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]07095-3312[/font][/font]
[font=Arial][font=Arial]USA[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]Expected Delivery:[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]Please allow 2-4 weeks from the time your compact disc arrives for processing of your order and shipment. We are not responsible for mail lost on the way to us. If you fail to include any of the three required items (CD, contact info, money order), we will not be able to honor the discount offer. This offer expires December 31st 2003.[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]PLEASE NOTE: Airborne Assault and Highway to the Reich do have many different scenarios and is at slightly different scales.[/font][/font]

Am I to assume that this offer will not be available to the British market?

The original is too good to give away

David Heath wrote:[font=Arial][font=Arial]Airborne Assault Owners Limited Time Discount Offer[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]While the new Airborne Assault: Highway to the Reich has a host of changes and improvements since its original publication, Matrix Games and Panther Games have not forgotten the original group of Airborne Assault customers and supporters. We plan to support the new Airborne Assault series of games for a long time to come and we want to make it as easy as possible for you to join us.[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]The new retail Airborne Assault: Highway to the Reich will be priced at $49.99. Matrix Games and Panther Games are offering this same retail package to existing Airborne Assault owners for $34.99 plus $7(North America Only) for shipping and handling, a discount of 30% off the retail price. In order to qualify for this discount, you must own a copy of the original Airborne Assault and you must send in your original CD in good condition to Matrix Games.[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]Instructions:[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]Please include the following in a padded envelope:[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]1. Your undamaged Airborne Assault compact disc
[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]2. A printed card with your name, phone number, e-mail address and mailing address (no PO Boxes)[/font][/font]
[font=Arial][font=Arial]3. A money order (no checks please) for $41.99 (US Currency) to[/font][/font]


[font=Arial][font=Arial]Mail the envelope to:[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]Airborne Assault Trade In
[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]c/o Matrix Games, Inc.
[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]10 Main Street Suite 4A
[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]PMB#263
[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]Woodbridge[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial], [/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]NJ
[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]07095-3312[/font][/font]
[font=Arial][font=Arial]USA[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]Expected Delivery:[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]Please allow 2-4 weeks from the time your compact disc arrives for processing of your order and shipment. We are not responsible for mail lost on the way to us. If you fail to include any of the three required items (CD, contact info, money order), we will not be able to honor the discount offer. This offer expires December 31st 2003.[/font][/font]

[font=Arial][font=Arial]PLEASE NOTE: Airborne Assault and Highway to the Reich do have many different scenarios and is at slightly different scales.[/font][/font]

Please dont take this the wrong way but why can't you do this for EYSA

Sarge wrote:Please dont take this the wrong way but why can't you do this for EYSA

I would think
Its because Matrix was not the publisher

Might be breaking some copyright laws

Dissapointed!!!

Bah, Dave earned full price, I'm keeping mine

Disappointed as well. The software stores in my area only sell at full retail for the first week of release, then it's basically 20% off per week thereafter until it hits the $10 bin.

I want to support Panther and Matrix with a direct sale (maximizing their profit margin), but if I wait 2 weeks I can get it for the same price locally.

Panther and Matrix: This low discount is bad as it will not get the game the 'critical mass' it needs to have a healthy online 'Opponent Finder' community.
That was a huge failing of RDOA... you could never find an online opponent.

$34.99 and free shipping is what many of us were hoping for. Call the free shipping a marketing expense. Yes, I'm sure most of us can afford the $7, but that isn't the point. In my line of work, we exceed our customer's expectations and it pays off every time with loyalty and incredible word of mouth.

Thanks, citizen

We are building a gaming community and have joined forces with the Wargamer to provide. Please checkout www.thegamers.net and you will find that we are supporting the gamers with Ladders, Opponents Wanted, Online play with our BattleHQ and with free scenarios, mods in our Game Depot.

David

I for one will be holding on to my original as Mr. Frag has seen fit to do. These guys poured their hearts out into this game and have never ceased to amaze me at how open they are to continued improvements. I gladly fork over the full amount to help bolster sales - it is the least I can do for the guys that have added such a fun game to my life!

Yakstock

David Heath wrote:We are building a gaming community and have joined forces with the Wargamer to provide. Please checkout www.thegamers.net and you will find that we are supporting the gamers with Ladders, Opponents Wanted, Online play with our BattleHQ and with free scenarios, mods in our Game Depot.

David

Since you don't seem to be offering the 'trade in discount' in the UK I presume your idea of a 'gaming community' stops at the eastern and western seaboards of the North American continent. How wonderfully parochial :rolleyes:

Kevinugly wrote:Since you don't seem to be offering the 'trade in discount' in the UK I presume your idea of a 'gaming community' stops at the eastern and western seaboards of the North American continent. How wonderfully parochial :rolleyes:

Kevin,

I have just checked with David Heath on this and confirmed that the offer is valid for all previous customers and not just those in North America. David has amended the original post. Note that the shipping to North America is $5 and $7 elsewhere.

citizen wrote:Disappointed as well. The software stores in my area only sell at full retail for the first week of release, then it's basically 20% off per week thereafter until it hits the $10 bin.

I want to support Panther and Matrix with a direct sale (maximizing their profit margin), but if I wait 2 weeks I can get it for the same price locally.

Panther and Matrix: This low discount is bad as it will not get the game the 'critical mass' it needs to have a healthy online 'Opponent Finder' community.
That was a huge failing of RDOA... you could never find an online opponent.

$34.99 and free shipping is what many of us were hoping for. Call the free shipping a marketing expense. Yes, I'm sure most of us can afford the $7, but that isn't the point. In my line of work, we exceed our customer's expectations and it pays off every time with loyalty and incredible word of mouth.

Thanks, citizen

Citizen,

I appreciate your point of view. However, we think this is a fair offer. We believe that our original customers have already received excellent value for their money on RDOA. After all, if you didn't why would you want HTTR. HTTR has been so extensively overhauled. It is really a new game. It is the fruit of over a year of development work. That doesn't come cheap and if we are to continue, we need to make a profit - pure and simple. If we don't we're out of business and you guys don't get the games you love.

We think a $15 ( or 30% ) discount is a very fair offer. At $50 full price HTTR represents excellent value. At the trade in price of $35 its a steal. You won't be dissappointed.

Kevinugly wrote:Since you don't seem to be offering the 'trade in discount' in the UK I presume your idea of a 'gaming community' stops at the eastern and western seaboards of the North American continent. How wonderfully parochial :rolleyes:

Hi Kevinugly

We support all of our customer everywhere. Please remember we did not publish the first game but we wanted to support Dave and Panther Games so we came up with this arrangement. I posted the draft and not the edited version sorry about that. We spend a lot of development money and our new client and effort in building up the community. Don't give up on us yet

Truth be told, I stopped playing RDOA when it was announced that a new patch was in the works to fix armor engagement range, mainly. It never showed up and I haven't played it since. I didn't really get full value out of it, but that isn't your fault (though I am disappointed that the patch never appeared). I am looking forward to HTTR as a patched and improved version of RDOA. In my situation, I'm paying $40 for a patch to the game I purchased and was told would be patched.

Nevertheless, I'm going to do the trade-in so you guys get the money direct. Hey, at least you dropped the shipping down to $5.

Any chance you could throw us a bone and ship our discs on November 14 so we get them the same day they hit stores?

Thanks, citizen

Truth be told, I stopped playing RDOA when it was announced that a new patch was in the works to fix armor engagement range, mainly. It never showed up and I haven't played it since. I didn't really get full value out of it, but that isn't your fault (though I am disappointed that the patch never appeared). I am looking forward to HTTR as a patched and improved version of RDOA. In my situation, I'm paying $40 for a patch to the game I purchased and was told would be patched.

Nevertheless, I'm going to do the trade-in so you guys get the money direct. Hey, at least you dropped the shipping down to $5.

Any chance you could throw us a bone and ship our discs on November 14 so we get them the same day they hit stores?

Thanks, citizen

citizen wrote:Nevertheless, I'm going to do the trade-in so you guys get the money direct. Hey, at least you dropped the shipping down to $5.

Good to hear.

Any chance you could throw us a bone and ship our discs on November 14 so we get them the same day they hit stores?

Thanks, citizen

We'll do our best.

let me expand...please

I'm not dissapointed with paying the full price - oh, no - just with the unfairness of the offer, i.e. the US centricness [?]. If I were to take up this offer I would need to incur the cost of posting (overseas) the original CD, the extra cost of the p&p (7:5 USD), and more importantly, the import duty.

For example, when I pre-ordered CM:BO from Battle from it cost me in the region of £70 for a £40 software, why would I want that to happen,again ?


Andrew

CriticalMass wrote:let me expand...please

I'm not dissapointed with paying the full price - oh, no - just with the unfairness of the offer, i.e. the US centricness [?]. If I were to take up this offer I would need to incur the cost of posting (overseas) the original CD, the extra cost of the p&p (7:5 USD), and more importantly, the import duty.

For example, when I pre-ordered CM:BO from Battle from it cost me in the region of £70 for a £40 software, why would I want that to happen,again ?


Andrew

My take too. We'd be better off selling our copies of the game to the local 'Gamestation' stores than taking up Matrix's 'offer'. I'm also tempted to go into a massive rant about 'support', 'Americans', 'Gulf War' etc. but I won't. Life is too short. I would say though that when it was announced that 'game two' was going to be an 'enhanced' version of 'game one' I was disappointed. Then when the possibility of a 'trade-in' deal was announced I stated my doubts as to whether such a thing would occur in the UK. I hate to say it, but I was right and for one I will not be rushing off to my local game stores to purchase HTTR.

Kevinugly wrote:My take too. We'd be better off selling our copies of the game to the local 'Gamestation' stores than taking up Matrix's 'offer'. I'm also tempted to go into a massive rant about 'support', 'Americans', 'Gulf War' etc. but I won't. Life is too short. I would say though that when it was announced that 'game two' was going to be an 'enhanced' version of 'game one' I was disappointed. Then when the possibility of a 'trade-in' deal was announced I stated my doubts as to whether such a thing would occur in the UK. I hate to say it, but I was right and for one I will not be rushing off to my local game stores to purchase HTTR.

If this were the original publisher I would but more faith in your argument. Matrix did not make a dime of of anybody's money for the first game. When the close combat series went to SSI from Microsoft, did anyone get a discount on the game? Heck they even went back to Normandy in the series! I believe the discount is more than generous. I'll keep the original however, not worth the time and effort; I would rather Matrix and Panther have the money.

John