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Uppgrading!!!

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:51 am
by peter bogos
Iam notice the change in wir that makes stugIII also uppgrading Jpz whit auto-eqp controll,well in real they even didit whit pz-bn at the end,for me its irritaiting
when my jpz gets the stugIII and to use auto-eqp is easyer than human
controll so u dont have to check all the time just to se that
some of your panzers have to few tanks thats are out of date and no
many left in the pool,so its anoying now to use human or auto.

And Ju-87D is changing to FW-190F in factory ,dive-b to Fighter-b!!
First I thought changing stuka-div to FW190F gone appear but
understand that it is not possible,instead my stukas turned to bombers,
never happend before.

The fronts should not be shatterd when your points are higher than the allieds.
Its first time I played 3.3 and its feb-44 so only the southernfront have
collapsed so far I dont now yet if westfront also gone do that.

AI still to lazy to do real offensives.

In the orginal wir u didint hade to change your bombers if u wanted a airlift
or interdiction etc,it was automatical what ever the mission was.
To much klicking some times.




Excuse my bad English!

This - That

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 7:12 am
by MikeB
Your English is understandable...and you only get better if you use it.

Your questions about automatic upgrading of factories and units are valid. As Russian in WIR 3.3 in 1943...I am seeing many game messages about upgrading to KV-1E...but it doesnt say from what. I have been too lazy to note the unit and go back into the AltR to determine what it had been. I am uncertain if it is upgrading Valentines or T34-M40s, or something else. I think i have it set on Human control of factories and Equipment.

I find the game confusing in this respect. When one lights up the option...say Human Factory Control....it means that it is currently set to Computer factory control<i think>

The equations for Southern and Western fronts vs the Allies are also suspect.
I think they are the following :

Year South West
41 1000 0
42 1500 2000
43 2000 3000
44 3000 5500
45 2750 6500
in Clear weather, add
500 1000
For Leadership ...if Axis fail the roll
41/42 500 0
43 and later 750 1000

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 9:11 am
by JagdFlanker
ok, i'll just ramble...

if it says human control, that means you are NOW in control, not the opposite.

in 3.3, Jpz units can interchange StuG and Jpz units. but StuG units can only have StuG's. i find it interesting that the ai upgrades Jpz units to StuG's as i figured the AI would be hard coded to do certain moves. i use manual equip upgrade and ai factory upgrade. my only ai factory upgrade complaint is once i start building Do-217's I don't want to build He-177's!

in regards to stukas turning to Fw190f F/B's, the Sovs pull a similer move in '43 when the Tu-2 can be placed in both ground attack (Pe-2/Il-2) and bomber (Il-4/TB-2) wings. i like the idea of stuka wings possibly turning to fighter wings later - makes the wing more flexible!

the ai is a waste of time except for factory upgrades, since you get new units producing faster (1 week wait instead of 4) and earlier than manual control. but playing against the confuser is a waste of time!

the old way of doing airstrikes is interesting - if each HQ can only do 1 mission per turn germany would have to break down it's airforce more between HQ's to do large #'s of multiple airstrikes like they can currently with 1 HQ!

the game automatically upgrades the tanks of certain units if you have extra tanks in the pool regardless if you have it on auto or manual upgrade control. i let my kv-1 pool go to 4-500 in my 1 sov '41 game, then the ai started replacing tanks or more commonly adding a new Bn in a pile of units over a month until i was down to 50. and i was on manual equip upgrade!

i guess to make it easy, have an extra 1001 points in each west and south front and they won't shatter until their historical date?