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KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:20 am
by Les_the_Sarge_9_1
Yo KG, just a friendly comment from an ex-Mod friend.

I was asked to Mod, because the owners knew me well. But unfortunately, some things just don't work, and some people just ain't suited.

Now me, I like having an opinion, and often I am quite agressive with it as well :)

But that reeeeeeeeally botched my capacity as a Mod.

And, well, it ain't easy to un-Mod yerself either :)

So even if you decide to step down, you might end up never really being able to actually walk away.

So ya needs to take my own experiences to heart. Ya gotta sit back and just look at the threads (yes I know that will suck large).

If a thread spins out of control, you as Mod (which is forum speak for referee I think), get the pleasure of stepping in, and stopping that out of control spin.

But as with referees, you are not really allowed to play in the game (yes that sucks large).

I hated being a referee, just wasn't getting anything out of it. And it can often be unrewarding too. Also needs a person that really just doesn't mind just Moderating.

Hope this has not offended you. I certainly hope this doesn't inspire a barrage of flack or bad commentary as well. I could have PMed you too I suppose. But I wanted this to be a public comment (in spite of the risk).

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:49 am
by Goblin
I have a completely different view that works pretty well, I think. I am only a mod when I have to be. To help someone out, or stop trouble. Other than that, I am just Goblin, period. I still do what I would always do, but could do more if absolutely necessary.

It seems to work.


Goblin

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:50 am
by Goblin
And I would avoid locking threads that don't need locked.[;)]


Goblin

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:19 am
by Les_the_Sarge_9_1
Hmmm care to try that assertion over at Wargamer Goblin hehe, that forum eats Mods eh.

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:02 am
by Muzrub
KG is the moderator and I think he should be able to contiribute to threads and start threads no matter what the topic is.
But when a moderator does contribute with his own thoughts on a topic he should take the moderator cap off and leave it to the side and not dwell on whether he was correct in contributing.

The idea of a moderator is to remove spam and flammers. If a mod can do that, then its good enough.

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:43 am
by KG Erwin
Thanks for your comments, guys. For those who know me pretty well, you know that some days I don't have much to say. On those days I just check in, make sure everything is OK, and then go about my normal routine. On other days, I just wanna shoot the breeze or share some information like any other forumer. As Muzrub says, in theory I should be able to express my opinions freely, as long as I don't violate the general forum rules.

Today, I found myself in the thoroughly bizarre role of having to lock my own thread. I briefly considered registering under an alter ego, but that could lead to even more strangeness.

At this point, I know I can trust you guys to keep each other in line, and sometimes to keep ME in line.

As always, any of you are welcome to PM or e-mail me with any concerns you may have, whether dealing with the forums or anything else.

KG's Bar is open 24/7.

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:32 am
by Nilbog
ORIGINAL: Goblin
I am only a mod when I have to be.

Really? Where at? [&:]


[:D]

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:06 am
by KG Erwin
Oh, boy! [:D] Maybe I should've answered as GK Niwre. Listen, I know that Goblin runs a mod group therapy area, but I'm no longer privy to that support group.

However, I do have KG's Bar, but there are occasions when I may need a little, uh, support in finding my way to the door.

Nilbog, you don't happen to be a Dom, do you? Well, once in a while I play Sub Missions, but, oh, nevermind...[8|]

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:47 pm
by JJKettunen
ORIGINAL: Nilbog
ORIGINAL: Goblin
I am only a mod when I have to be.

Really? Where at? [&:]


[:D]

LOL!!! [&o]

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:53 pm
by Belisarius
HA HA HA .... "Nilbog"... [:D]

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:01 am
by Rudyard Tippling
Greetings, Neighbors. I don't know what Mr KG is talking about, but I love the Germans. German beer is very good and tasty, and so is German sausage--we can add a little cheese, and some Pumpernickel bread, and we have a perfectly delightful lunch on a perfectly delightful spring day--did I mention the delightful German beer?
( OK, cut! Who wrote this crap? I'm a serious man, and this kiddie stuff is just horsesh**t!
We're back on the air? F***!)
...and tomorrow, we will take a trip to the delightful Bavarian Alps, and maybe even visit Berchtesgaden. Can you spell Mein Kampf? Bye for now, or as they say in Germany, Auf Weidersehen!

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:34 am
by kensey
Sarge, I am quiet new to this forum so I might have missed
something, but why shouldn't a mod be allowed to have his own
opinion and to defend it agressively? I think it is ok
as long as he seperates his actions as a mod
(keeping up the rules in the forums) from that
of a participant and does not abuse his power
in his private disputes.

KG I can't understand why you closed down your
own thread, it was quiet interesting to see
how people approach wargames. After all there
is a strong roleplaying element in tactical
wargames (only read the DAR reports to see
what I mean) and it is clear that for most people
it's most enjoyable to roleplay as a side
whith which they can easily identify
(like their nationality) although some prefer to
explore the implications of being someone that they
never wanted to be in real live (like an SS officer).

Kensey, I reopened it, with further comments. KG Erwin

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:29 am
by degen
KG-

As forum watcher for sometime, my advice is for you to be yourself, have fun, and don't take anything personal. If someone else wants to take it personal, then the he** with them! Above all, don't get burned out on being the Mod. You're doing a great job in my eyes.

I truly appreciate that, degen. Thanks for your support. KG Erwin.

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:48 am
by tracer
Glenn,
A little tip: edited messages = 'not good' (unless requested by the member).

Just an observation[:)]

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:49 am
by Resisti
ORIGINAL: tracer

Glenn,
A little tip: edited messages = 'not good' (unless requested by the member).

Just an observation[:)]
Ditto.
That's where the "reply with quote" button comes handy ;)
Just a friendly suggestion :)

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:10 pm
by Les_the_Sarge_9_1
Sarge, I am quiet new to this forum so I might have missed
something, but why shouldn't a mod be allowed to have his own
opinion and to defend it agressively? I think it is ok
as long as he seperates his actions as a mod
(keeping up the rules in the forums) from that
of a participant and does not abuse his power
in his private disputes.

Kensey, it was just my concerns based upon my own personal Moderator experiences.
There has been a lot of "flak" recently connected with KG's approach, and I was just giving my own observations based on my own dismal experiences.

I do NOT want to see KG, end up experiencing even a fraction of the grief I experienced, mainly because KG is a buddy of mine. If KG wasn't a buddy, then I suppose I would have never been concerned.

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:47 am
by degen
ORIGINAL: Resisti
ORIGINAL: tracer

Glenn,
A little tip: edited messages = 'not good' (unless requested by the member).

Just an observation[:)]
Ditto.
That's where the "reply with quote" button comes handy ;)
Just a friendly suggestion :)


No problem with me. I follow the same advice as I gave KG and do not take anything personal!

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:59 am
by bob55
I'm a new member to this forum, and for what it's worth.......a moderator has a very "challenging" position on the forum. That being said, I feel that they can also have a personal opinion that is valid.

After all, isn't the main reason for this forum to assist each of us to enjoy these games to the max, and to fix the problems that every game from any manufacturer has? Someone has to keep a lid on things!

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:27 am
by KG Erwin
ORIGINAL: bob55

I'm a new member to this forum, and for what it's worth.......a moderator has a very "challenging" position on the forum. That being said, I feel that they can also have a personal opinion that is valid.

After all, isn't the main reason for this forum to assist each of us to enjoy these games to the max, and to fix the problems that every game from any manufacturer has? Someone has to keep a lid on things!

Hello, bob55, and I want to welcome you aboard. Thanks for your comments, but let me tell you that this board is an invaluable resource for learning the intricacies of the SPWaW system. Like all great wargames, it is simple to learn, but difficult to master. Here you will find a membership that is eager to train and familiarize newcomers to this system.
Just remember that there are no stupid questions. If you're unsure about any feature of the game, just ask, and one of us will try to answer you. We're here to share knowledge, answer questions, and just have fun. BTW, my informal forum nickname is Gunny. Glad you're with us.[:)]

RE: KG just an observation from an ex Mod

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:57 am
by bob55
Thank you Gunny! I enjoy SPWaW, it's really the only game I play with any consistency. I've played through Watchtower three times, as well as working my way through the other scenarios. I have learned that this board is a great source of information, so far most of my questions have already been answered just by looking at the various threads.

My only question.....how can I add the Eagle, Globe and Anchor to my posting?

Semper Fi!