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$$$$$$$?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:35 pm
by DerSchwarzeMann
Why does this game cost so much? And if someone says that its deap and no feedback upon it, im gonna be really mad.

I HAVE RECIEVED MANY RESPONSES CONSIDERING ME BEING A blank
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE EVERYONE WHO CONTRIBUTED, I DO NOT WISH TO RECIEVE ANY MORE RESPONSES. IF YOU MUST PLEASE GO AHEAD.

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:49 pm
by Ol_Dog
"Tis better to be pissed off than ...

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:49 pm
by Mr.Frag
ORIGINAL: DerSchwarzeMann

Why does this game cost so much? And if someone says that its deap and no feedback upon it, im gonna be really pissed off.

That being the case, it is really cheap! [:'(]

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:01 pm
by LargeSlowTarget
The topic, scope and complexity of WitP will make it a niche game for hardcore wargamers. There will be no mass market for it. So they can't make a profit by selling it to many many people at a moderate price, but may do so by selling it to a few grognards who are willing to pay a higher price for this gem. Furtermore, it's not a game you will play through in a day or a week or a month. So it might be expensive in absolute terms, but it will be cheap in terms relative to how much fun you will have with it for years to come. How long will $70 bucks entertain you in a bar or disco or a fun park? Two hours, three?

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:28 pm
by pasternakski
ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget
How long will $70 bucks entertain you in a bar or disco or a fun park? Two hours, three?

It's the strip clubs and brothels that really cost me.

LST, you are exactly right. This game has taken thousands of hours of development and testing, and it will be lucky to sell 5,000 copies. You have to be a certain kind of wargamer, Darkman, before you want to get involved at this level.

It's not gonna be a "pull out your aircraft simulator joystick and whip 'er around" experience.

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:00 pm
by Mr.Frag
What really cracks me up is the epic Turn #1 will actually take you guys longer to set up then most other games in the same price range even last! [:D]

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:39 pm
by Mike Scholl
ORIGINAL: DerSchwarzeMann

Why does this game cost so much? And if someone says that its deap and no feedback upon it, im gonna be really pissed off.

If you look at it from the point of view of the time and effort that the designers and
developers (not to mention the testors) have had to put into it, and the amount of
playability it promises to provide, IT'S CHEAP! If you want to see a "rip-off" look at
your cable bill.

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 8:14 pm
by Admiral DadMan
ORIGINAL: DerSchwarzeMann

Why does this game cost so much? And if someone says that its deap and no feedback upon it, im gonna be really pissed off.
Ok, then be a hozer and don't buy it.

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 8:44 pm
by brisd
Hmmm. I recall paying $70 for early pc wargames such War In Russia, Pacific War, all by [&o] Gary Grigsby of 2by3 fame (designers of WITP). I am still playing those games over 10 years later, so they were worth several times that price in terms of game value. I have games that quickly left my harddrive after paying half as much. I echo the former posters comments as well. Finally, one can wait till the game is out and proven a winner before you jump. A game of this scope and learning curve will not appeal to the masses.

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 8:50 pm
by Nomad
Let's see. I've had UV since it came out. That's about 2 years or something like 700 days. At an average of 4 hours per day that is 2800 hours of play. It cost me $55.00US with shipping which comes out about 2 cents per hour so far. I think it is well worh it. WitP will probaly get to 1 cent per hour after the first PBEM game of 4 years. [:D]

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:33 pm
by pad152
You can always buy two crappy games for $39.00 each or one good one for $69.99. Now you tell me which is cheaper?

RE: To which the congregation replies..

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:37 pm
by RevRick
a resounding Amen. I am getting back to playing UV, and look forward to WitP with bated breath.

RE: To which the congregation replies..

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:05 pm
by Rendova
We may want to knock off all this "its too cheap" talk... they'll raise the price [8|]

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:11 pm
by bilbow
ORIGINAL: Nomad

Let's see. I've had UV since it came out. That's about 2 years or something like 700 days. At an average of 4 hours per day that is 2800 hours of play. It cost me $55.00US with shipping which comes out about 2 cents per hour so far. I think it is well worh it. WitP will probaly get to 1 cent per hour after the first PBEM game of 4 years. [:D]

So if I've only gotten 2-3 hours a day on UV over the same 2 years, my cost is 3 or 4 cents per hour. I guess that means I haven't yet got my money's worth! [:D]

Get real. $70 is as great a bargain as we'll ever see.

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:50 am
by Admiral DadMan
AND WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ALREADY

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:20 am
by Mike Scholl
ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan

AND WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ALREADY

Of course we have..., and we'll continue to have it everytime some cheapskate
whines about the price.

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:28 am
by Mr.Frag
Of course we have..., and we'll continue to have it everytime some cheapskate
whines about the price.

I have told Matrix to raise the price for having to put up with you guys!




























































<snicker>

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:41 am
by CMDRMCTOAST
I agree with everybody but the cheapskate............

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:46 am
by Rainerle
I don't mind the price of the game itself but hopefully there will be an affordable way to get the game in the old europe (giving the money to Matrix is one thing, throwing it after FedEx, UPS or whatever is a different story).

RE: $$$$$$$?

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:56 pm
by Marc von Martial
ORIGINAL: Rainerle

I don't mind the price of the game itself but hopefully there will be an affordable way to get the game in the old europe (giving the money to Matrix is one thing, throwing it after FedEx, UPS or whatever is a different story).

Since a few weeks you´re able to order directly from our E-Store, but have the product shipped from a european warehouse. You will now simply end up with what a parcel costs to be shipped wihtin the EU [;)]. something around 4.90 EUR.

You people should read the general forums too once in a while [:'(]

Gruß ins Münsterland.