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This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:19 am
by Maliki
Though is there really a need for another WWII FPS game?

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/bro ... index.html

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:46 pm
by Les_the_Sarge_9_1
I think its time to call this a "hair" movie.

It looks fine enough from a tech level angle, but I think by and large, it seems like the Final Fantasy movie The Spirits Within.

Somewhere along the way it's inevitable, you will end up wasting time marveling at the detail of the screen, and forget you were only wanting to play a wargame.

Well that's me at least. I consider HTTR to be a great example of a great new wargame.
I think the guys that made this, might be better off doing CGI for movies though.

It looks incredible, but so what. Where does it end? I thought the dead guy in the tree was more than I want to see in "a game". Maybe next they can recreate the smell. When are the bad guys going to rape someone in graphic detail. I sure hope they never get around to a concentration camp.

The closer to real it gets, the more it turns me off.

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:07 pm
by wodin
Im very bored of the FPS genre.

Very bored indeed.

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:16 pm
by ShermanM4
Brothers in Arms ehh?? A stroy about the 101 AB division in DDay. I have a better name for it, lets call it Band of Brothers. We will base it off the real life account of an actual paratrooper company (ill throw a dart at the alphabet). Oh how about that, I hit "E." Now all we need is a best selling book to base it on......

Aside from the stupidity of doing yet another game, movie, book, media someting, about the 101, I think if this games is anything like Ghost Recon they will get my dollar. I noticed its being published by UBIsoft. The screen shots seemed a little vague, and if its a Medal of Honor clone that will be very sad. It seemed strange that three of those screen shots showed the men posing for a photo oppurtunity. Oh well I'll keep my fingers crossed.

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:31 pm
by Fred98
ORIGINAL: Les_the_Sarge_9_1
I consider HTTR to be a great example of a great new wargame.


Whoo! We finally got it out of him! [8D]

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:31 am
by Maliki
I found it interesting because,

A.it is supposed to be based off a real life story,but the catch is in the "based" part...now isn't it.

B.The previews assertion that proper squad based tactics,as the non-com,are essiental to to get through the game.

I just figured i would throw this one out there,as i was suprised when i came across it.

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:42 pm
by Belisarius
Looks interesting.

I'm thinking "Call of Duty meets Hidden & Dangerous 2, but a LOT more good looking".

Probably worth a demo DL when it's released.

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 8:29 pm
by Peever
Another WWII game set as the Allies at Normandy

If they MUST make another Normandy game at least do it from a different piont of view. Why not from the British Airborne or even the Germans?

WWII spanned the globe and lasted what, six years? Must we continue to spend so much time during that first week in June of '44?

At least when Spielberg and Hanks finish making their new mini-series in the Pacific, game makers will have a new cash cow to milk.

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:30 pm
by Belisarius
ORIGINAL: Peever

Another WWII game set as the Allies at Normandy

If they MUST make another Normandy game at least do it from a different piont of view. Why not from the British Airborne or even the Germans?

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Good question. But we won't see any first-person games featuring a scenario campaign with a German in the lead role anytime soon I recon. Taboo. [:-]

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:19 am
by Maliki
ORIGINAL: Peever

Another WWII game set as the Allies at Normandy

If they MUST make another Normandy game at least do it from a different piont of view. Why not from the British Airborne or even the Germans?

WWII spanned the globe and lasted what, six years? Must we continue to spend so much time during that first week in June of '44?

At least when Spielberg and Hanks finish making their new mini-series in the Pacific, game makers will have a new cash cow to milk.

I hope so.I always found the PTO/CIB theaters more of interest than the NA/ETO theaters.MoH:Rising Sun just didn't quite fit the bill.

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:14 pm
by ShermanM4
Another WWII game set as the Allies at Normandy

If they MUST make another Normandy game at least do it from a different piont of view. Why not from the British Airborne or even the Germans?

WWII spanned the globe and lasted what, six years? Must we continue to spend so much time during that first week in June of '44?

At least when Spielberg and Hanks finish making their new mini-series in the Pacific, game makers will have a new cash cow to milk.
I hope so.I always found the PTO/CIB theaters more of interest than the NA/ETO theaters.MoH:Rising Sun just didn't quite fit the bill.


My thoughts exactly Peever.

Maliki, I have not palyed MoH Rising Sun yet, and who knows, maybe MoH Pacific Assault will be better. All I can say, is I bought MoH Breakthrough. It was fun, but I would like to see the Italian front modeled from a whole new engine. One like his new Brothers in Arms game.

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:29 am
by Sarge
WWII + 101st +DDAY= sales.

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:39 am
by Les_the_Sarge_9_1
Yes annoyingly true, the same with Tanks + Russia = Wargame.

Been done to death, but wargamers tend to equate certain things together in spite of how often it has been done before.

Every time someone releases something military, certain truths are hard to ignore.

WW2 was about many things, but commercially, it is basically only about the Russian front, or something the US did. It's almost like that was the only part of the war that counted at the cash register.

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:30 am
by ShermanM4
Yes annoyingly true, the same with Tanks + Russia = Wargame.

Hehe well Les in a couple more years we wont even have to worry about that. Being a High School history teacher, I have to constantly remind my 9th Graders that there was such a thing as the Soviet Union since most of them were born in 1988. Or if your taking a pot shot at CCIII I could not agree more.

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:31 am
by Sarge
Its getting to the point were its a joke. There is so much that has never been looked at by the industry. I am not a fan of FPS in the first place but I can see how some would like the eye candy and the fast pace game play (under 30 crowd). But MOH or COD or even this Brothers in arms are not wargames, its paint ball in a WWII uniform. I like how they allways push the its the most realistic wargame yet, How is that do you feel remorse after a game.

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:10 am
by Les_the_Sarge_9_1
"Most realistic" is about as silly a term as it gets.

I think of them as silly bugger with no arguing over "bang your dead!" and the other guy saying "no I'm not, you're dead".

Sort of like "real time", ah yeah right, sure, whatever you say.

I will give them credit for stunning visual details, and some day they may become an asset for hollywood the way Final Fantasy has. Not that Hollywood has ever been well known for "real" or "accurate".

But as you said, in a few more years....

I still chuckle over a short conversation with a young friend I have in town here. He is one of the super skilled mega computer using FPS types as well. He is 19 currently.
I was recalling the Gulf War, and made some remark about it, and I was talking as if it was a common thing between us. My error though, was forgetting I was an older man, but he wasn't.
"Ah Les, I was only 6 during the Gulf War".
Just seemed natural to talk about it though. It was something I can still recall like it was yesterday on the news.

Most kids today, can't even relate to games that were not played on a machine.

I say "wargame", and I really mean "board game".

I say "simulation", and I actually mean "historical recreation".

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:13 pm
by Frank W.
ORIGINAL: Peever

Another WWII game set as the Allies at Normandy

If they MUST make another Normandy game at least do it from a different piont of view. Why not from the British Airborne or even the Germans?

WWII spanned the globe and lasted what, six years? Must we continue to spend so much time during that first week in June of '44?

At least when Spielberg and Hanks finish making their new mini-series in the Pacific, game makers will have a new cash cow to milk.

mhh.. british in normandy ?? where do you have information from that the there were any other countries ? i thought the americans won that alone with a few paratroopers who kicked the germans but. like the US pilots that won the BOB....[:D]

also you know the germans are stupid and evil, who wants to play such people.


perhaps i should watch fewer holliwood movies [:'(]

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:43 pm
by Les_the_Sarge_9_1
I wonder how many are aware, that the real Private Ryan was British hehe.

The story is based off a British soldier eh.

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:02 pm
by Frank W.
ORIGINAL: Les_the_Sarge_9_1

I wonder how many are aware, that the real Private Ryan was British hehe.

The story is based off a British soldier eh.

les, i have a source that even claims there were canadian troops fighting at d-day. can you believe such commonwealth propaganda?

every one where i live knows the americans did it alone [;)]

RE: This looks pretty interesting

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:36 pm
by Les_the_Sarge_9_1
My grandfather was there, and he was suspiciously Canadian hehe.

I think the US is just embarassed over how little Canada was the furthest inland on D+1 :)