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I am not here to discuss the circumstances of this photo. I just want to know what kind of rifle this young man is holding. Does anybody know?

I'll take a guess that it might be an FNAL.

7.62mm(NATO Rimless) M1A1 FNAL SLR...wast he standard rifle for Australian Army until the late '80s. The one pictured has a twenty round mag but there was a thirty round mag also in use. Very easy to keep clean as was good for targets upto 300 meters, not bad for an open sight !

I loved this rifle and even though it was longer and heavier than the M16, you knew that whatever you hit would not be getting up again in a hurry, or if they did, would be missing a major body part.

I'll take a guess that it might be an FNAL.

7.62mm(NATO Rimless) M1A1 FNAL SLR...wast he standard rifle for Australian Army until the late '80s. The one pictured has a twenty round mag but there was a thirty round mag also in use. Very easy to keep clean as was good for targets upto 300 meters, not bad for an open sight !

I loved this rifle and even though it was longer and heavier than the M16, you knew that whatever you hit would not be getting up again in a hurry, or if they did, would be missing a major body part.

Thanks a lot guys I appreciate the quick answers[:)] I reckon with that answer you must have served Raverdave?

Definitely a FAL family example.

And after eating sleeping and living day to day with one, I would know hehe.

Yup I was a grunt from head to toe(5/6 RVR), but I did a six month stint in arty (2/15 Field battery)........bugger that, those guys worked too hard !

Yeah I loved it Les......it was a great rifle. The ONLY thing that could have improved it was a battle scope say maybe a 2 to 1 magnification?

Heh i thought it was FNAL too. Remember it from som first person shooter.

Depends on how you want to pronounce the name.

FN FAL/FNAL basically the same thing.

Fabrique Nationale Fusile Automatique Legere (stretching myself there, so no one get picky ).

Beautiful weapon. But it's a battlefield rifle ie, the idea is you use it differently than the way an M16 is used. I think of the M16 as a mid range supression weapon.

I was taught to aim it, and kill my target.
The US train their men to lay waste to the area while the LT decides exactly what to do

Depends on many things, but I would rather be with 20 Canadians trained to efficiently eliminate their targets, as opposed to being with 20 Americans that can defoiliate a region with small arms fire, and still need to call in air support hehe.

Ok I am aware I am going to get flak over picking on the US and their inability to hit the broad side of a barn door

It's called supressive fire and it is used to make guys that are exposing themselves to take "well aimed shots" try to find the lowest dirt in their immediate area. BTW, who holds the record for the longest sniper shot?

20 cool headed guys that can drop you in one shot, encounter 20 guys that spray rounds "in your general direction".

14 of the 20 cool headed guys hit their target while 5 of the lead for sale loonies actually are shooting close enough to hit anything at all.

What are the chances the 20 cool headed guys will be surpessed long by 14 dead or seriously wounded loonies? Especially as you might have hit 3 of the cool headed guys if you're lucky.

Supressive fire only works if you are alive.

Now the problem is, the US and their M16 have not exactly fought a lot of fights recently against what I would call a real army.

I can't think of one recently.

Last trained army I can recall then actually fighting, was the Germans in WW2.

And they did just fine without the M16

Yeah I'm with Les on this one.....it is one of the reasons that I like the Marines so much, they are trained "one shot one man", much like the Canadians and Aussies.

Oh yeah, and the SLR looks great with the bayonet on the end of it.......someone is going to think twice when there is 8inches of cold steel waiting for them.[:)]

ORIGINAL: Nickel

It's called supressive fire and it is used to make guys that are exposing themselves to take "well aimed shots" try to find the lowest dirt in their immediate area. BTW, who holds the record for the longest sniper shot?

Hathcock has the record at 2,250 meters. It is presently being challenged by a shot made in Afghanistan by an unidentified Canadian sniper. At just over 2400 meters it would be the longest shot ever made.

http://www.darwinmag.com/connect/opinio ... icleID=510

http://www.stormpages.com/swellal/sof.html

ORIGINAL: Raverdave

Oh yeah, and the SLR looks great with the bayonet on the end of it.......someone is going to think twice when there is 8inches of cold steel waiting for them.[:)]

Yes...but what a B*stard to hold!! Way too long...especially with bayonet...way too heavy and it had a kick like a mule on it.

Weak as piss.........well I guess thats what happens when you eat curry and chips and drink warm beer[;)]

We used to "jack' the rifle by inserting a matchstike somewhere near the sear-pin (IIRC) so you could fire it full-auto[:D] Anyway one night there was an attack and Pvt Raver lets fly with a whole mag as quick as you can say "zip". Unknown to me the ejected blanks were landing on a rather large dark form to my right...you can imagine my horror when I finally realised that it was none other than the RSM ![X(] Now there is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING that strikes fear into a young soldiers heart more than a chewing out by god himself..............made all the worse by him dragging me out in front of the company by the scruff of the neck while he "educated" the rest of the blokes as to why it was a stupid idea to jack your rifle.[8|]

I once fell asleep standing up during inspection eh, and "god" complimented my uniform. Of course I didn't hear him say it though, I was asleep.

I sure heard him the second time though. Also gave the wall a great smash with my head when I recoiled in fright upon waking.

GOD DAMNIT WAKE UP WHEN I COMPLIMENT YOU SOLDIER!!

I think that was the most scared I have ever been in my life.

Oh, for those complaining about weight, stop whining.

ORIGINAL: Les_the_Sarge_9_1
...Oh, for those complaining about weight, stop whining.

No....it was heavy. I mean - I was a remf - so it was heavy!![:(]

[:D] Nah it is the warm beer that saps your strength.[:D]