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Joe's Bridge

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:47 pm
by JeF
For the dutch speaking guys,

Here is a web site dedicated to Lommel - Barrier.
Lommel-Barrier
Joe's Bridge is located in the small hamlet of Groote-Barrier some miles east of Lommel (1).
You'll find accounts of the liberation of the hamlet and the assault on the bridge (I think) in dutch. And some old photos in the PORTAAL section.
Maybe someone who understand dutch better than myself can tell us more.

Cheers,

JeF.
(1) That is what my correspondant, witness of the events, told me. Groote-Barrier is not indicated on HTTR maps, fortunately Eddy S. will come by and correct the issue.

RE: Joe's Bridge

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:59 pm
by Grouchy
Afaik "De Groote-Barriere" is on the map. Surprised me noone commented on all the french on a map that is bassically showing a part of Brabant [;)]
-ie Escaut Canal: Bocholt Herentaals Kanaal, La Colonie: Lommel Kolonie

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Nice side and nice place btw. My sister lived there for a year (Lut Lommel), I soon found out that the food in Belgium restaurants and cafe's is much better then on our side of the border [:)]
LOl, just read part of that side, seems the germans tried to use a 500kg mine against the bridge a couple of days after the Brits have taken it.
Secondly, as we all know the german counterattack was not that succesfull but at least they managed to destroy the truck carrying Lt-Kol Vandeleur's music (LP) collection [:D]

RE: Joe's Bridge

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:11 am
by The_MadMan
Nice website, thanx for the link!

RE: Joe's Bridge

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:34 pm
by JeF
ORIGINAL: Grouchy
Afaik "De Groote-Barriere" is on the map.

Half true. It is on the Neerpelt map but not on Joe's bridge map. I only checked the latter at first.
Surprised me noone commented on all the french on a map that is bassically showing a part of Brabant [;)]
-ie Escaut Canal: Bocholt Herentaals Kanaal, La Colonie: Lommel Kolonie

As I'm french-speaking, I'm not well placed to comment about too much french.

It is "provincie Limburg", not Brabant BTW. If it would have been, you should also have explicited : Vlaams Brabant or Brabant Wallon. As if Belgium could be easily understandable [8|]

About the Canal, you're right I think. For a long time I though XXXth Corps attacked from the Albert Canal, south of this one. I was wrong (as usual [8|])
As for the choice of such names maybe Panther choosed the english name shown on their source maps or they were influenced by some bloke nitpicking about consitent names for rivers in the old AA manual (e.g : Scheldt/Schelde/Escault). [;)]

I'm all for consistency and giving the names of location the name given in the language spoken at that location. Dutch in our case. But for rivers ignoring borders, sometimes, it is not easy.

Cheers,

JeF.

RE: Joe's Bridge

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:11 pm
by Grouchy
Lol, in fact I really ment the really old orignal Brabant, the one which included the Dutch "Noord-Brabant" as well.
Yeah it's Limurg now , thanks to Nappie, who decide to do a landswap with Gestel.

GSGS maps I saw all had those french names. Then and now "Market Garden" does show part of those GSGS maps as well. It's probally that in the 1940's the french language influence was much greater then it is now??
So when I looked at those maps in, they did in my opinion, use the correct names. Noone except a lost Belgium player would be notice and argue about it anyway [:D]