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STUG III/IV is under rated.
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2001 7:28 pm
by varjager
While playing Spwaw i hgave notived that the stug is no more than an ordinary spg.The stug battalions where all "freiwilligen" and where composed of some of the best soldiers in the German army.But that is in no way pictured in the Spwaw.The should have the elite status in my opinion.What do the rest of you think?
Happy easter holiday!
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2001 7:34 pm
by Alby
This has been discussed in the OOB forum, and I believe changes have been made for ver 5.0
a quote from someone who knows.....
"Yes, I had advocated a raise in StuG fire Control,or Stab number to reflect the fact that for the most part, the StuG crews were volunteer, and generally better trained, with the weaponry of the Stug, than an average tank crew. I think they were worked on, but haven't checked for sure."
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2001 9:07 pm
by varjager
Well then it is just to wait for v5.0 and hopr for the best!
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2001 3:19 am
by Kluckenbill
Stug crews also had stereoscopic (or maybe coincidence) rangefinders!! I've seeen several photos of the commander using a small range finder in his cupola. This should help out with long range fire.
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2001 3:23 am
by Paul Vebber
Stug formations are now consdered "elite" and given +10 experience over regulars. We did not change the vehicle characterists, we think those are pretty accurate. SInce the critique is the quality of the crew, we think the +10 experience helps portray that.
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2001 9:03 pm
by Pave
Hi
It's good that you increase the experience value, but how about the artillery value? Many of those men had an artillery background and this is also true for the Finnish Stug crews.
Someone said:
Stug crews also had stereoscopic (or maybe coincidence) rangefinders.
Stug units were part of the field artillery so they had same kind of optics. A better range finder value would be right here. Later in the war equipment were no so good. For example the rotative commander's cupola with periscopes was later fixed.
BTW. Where are those artillery, armour and infantry command values used?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2001 10:49 pm
by Maximus
I will be down right giddy if this is true, I loves me some Stugs
. Just don't increse their price
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2001 12:03 pm
by varjager
Cause in the game as it stand the stug is almost useless.I lost more stugs than tanks in games.
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2001 5:39 pm
by Warhorse
Varjager, yes I lobbied for this awhile back, and it's in there, they WERE Freiwilligen, and are now as accurately portrayed as possible
Glad to see others realized this also!!
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2001 6:33 pm
by skukko
Stugs have allways been good. -G is real killer as it is hard to take out and it has good weaponry. Score for one is 13 in 4k pbem...
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