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I keep seeing folks complaining about the Pearl Harbo results not being historic..

1 or 2 sunk US BB's, and a lot in the med to high sys damage.


If I recall properly.. the only BB truly SUNK was the Arizona (can't count Utah..). The others were all raised, and with the exception of the Oklahoma went on to fight again.

So do you count Oklahoma or west virginia as being sunk? well.. YES they were sunk .. but they were raised.. IN the game once it's sunk, it's gone forever. So how do you simulate this in the game? 80 sys damage puts the ship out of action for a very long time. I would think that 70-90 sys damage is a very fair representation of a "sunk in the mud" ship that can be raised later to fight again. There is no option in game to "unsink" a ship.

So sinking one or 2 BB's and doing severe damage to 3 or 4 others should be very accurate historically.

just my opinion.. If you think Japan truly sunk 4 or 5 BB's at Pearl.. I suggest you read up on the Battle of Leyte Gulf.. for ships that were sunk they managed totravel a fairly good ways.

So do you count Oklahoma or west virginia as being sunk? well.. YES they were sunk .. but they were raised.. IN the game once it's sunk, it's gone forever. So how do you simulate this in the game? 80 sys damage puts the ship out of action for a very long time. I would think that 70-90 sys damage is a very fair representation of a "sunk in the mud" ship that can be raised later to fight again. There is no option in game to "unsink" a ship.

Thanks!

Good point.

Worr, out

It might have something to do with when the Allies are given what many would think historic, the advanced repair option I think it's called, then practically all the ships are fully repaired within a week. I don't know that for a fact, but a number of people are astonished that those ships raise so quickly whether it's a week or not.

In addition, Pearl Harbor was pure luck. That is like saying that in a scenario with HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Hood vs the Bismark and Prinz Eugen, that if the Hood doesn't blow up after Bismarks 5th salvo the results are too unrealistic. The point is is the historical outcome was pure luck, and trying it again won't yield the same results.