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In the intelligence screen why does the Manchuko garrison requirement always change when i do nothin
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:08 am
by Tanaka
at first it says 9116/8000. then i will click on some units and look at them and order them to march somewhere and then the number will be completely different. shouldnt this number only change if my units actually leave manchuko.
yep its confirmed. if i just march around any units in manchuko inside manchuko my current garrison points fall every time i order a unit somewhere and then check the intelligence screen.
RE: In the intelligence screen why does the Manchuko garrison requirement always change when i do nothin
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:22 am
by Xargun
ORIGINAL: Tanaka
at first it says 9116/8000. then i will click on some units and look at them and order them to march somewhere and then the number will be completely different. shouldnt this number only change if my units actually leave manchuko.
yep its confirmed. if i just march around any units in manchuko inside manchuko the garrison requirements fall every time i order a unit somewhere and then check the intelligence screen.
I believe the Assault Strength of a unit (which is what the garrison is based on) changes according to is disruption, fatigue and men / equipment in it. So a worn out unit is nowhere near as worthwhile as a fresh unit.
Xargun
RE: In the intelligence screen why does the Manchuko garrison requirement always change when i do nothin
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:04 am
by Tanaka
ORIGINAL: Xargun
ORIGINAL: Tanaka
at first it says 9116/8000. then i will click on some units and look at them and order them to march somewhere and then the number will be completely different. shouldnt this number only change if my units actually leave manchuko.
yep its confirmed. if i just march around any units in manchuko inside manchuko the garrison requirements fall every time i order a unit somewhere and then check the intelligence screen.
I believe the Assault Strength of a unit (which is what the garrison is based on) changes according to is disruption, fatigue and men / equipment in it. So a worn out unit is nowhere near as worthwhile as a fresh unit.
Xargun
yes i know. but this happens during turn one before i have hit the turn button and anything has moved. try it yourself. start a new game. look at the current garrison points in the intel screen and note how many. then go click on a base hex with infantry. pass your mouse over the infantry icon at the bottom of the screen to see its assault value. then actually click on the unit to pull up its detail screen and note how the assault value automatically changes. (another bug) then order the unit to move anywhere. then go back to the intel screen and notice how the garrison points changed automatically. (another bug) i have lowered my current garrison points by hundreds doing this. so it is essentially a bug.
RE: In the intelligence screen why does the Manchuko garrison requirement always change when i do nothin
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:17 pm
by siRkid
We'll look into it. Thanks
RE: In the intelligence screen why does the Manchuko garrison requirement always change when i do nothin
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:53 pm
by ZOOMIE1980
ORIGINAL: Tanaka
ORIGINAL: Xargun
ORIGINAL: Tanaka
at first it says 9116/8000. then i will click on some units and look at them and order them to march somewhere and then the number will be completely different. shouldnt this number only change if my units actually leave manchuko.
yep its confirmed. if i just march around any units in manchuko inside manchuko the garrison requirements fall every time i order a unit somewhere and then check the intelligence screen.
I believe the Assault Strength of a unit (which is what the garrison is based on) changes according to is disruption, fatigue and men / equipment in it. So a worn out unit is nowhere near as worthwhile as a fresh unit.
Xargun
yes i know. but this happens during turn one before i have hit the turn button and anything has moved. try it yourself. start a new game. look at the current garrison points in the intel screen and note how many. then go click on a base hex with infantry. pass your mouse over the infantry icon at the bottom of the screen to see its assault value. then actually click on the unit to pull up its detail screen and note how the assault value automatically changes. (another bug) then order the unit to move anywhere. then go back to the intel screen and notice how the garrison requirement has changed automatically. (another bug) i have lowered the garrison requirements by hundreds doing this. so it is essentially a bug and a cheat.
Wow! In our business we call that a "good catch"!
RE: In the intelligence screen why does the Manchuko garrison requirement always change when i do nothin
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:06 pm
by freeboy
I keep moving units out and the valu in the intellegence screen keeps going up.. is this do to units getting stronger? Have them all now set to do not accept replacements...
RE: In the intelligence screen why does the Manchuko garrison requirement always change when i do nothin
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:29 pm
by Xargun
ORIGINAL: freeboy
I keep moving units out and the valu in the intellegence screen keeps going up.. is this do to units getting stronger? Have them all now set to do not accept replacements...
Don't forget a lot of those units start with a lot of disabled squads and equipment. These repair over time and will increase the assault strength - they are not replacements, just wounded men / equipment getting fixed and healed.
Xargun
RE: In the intelligence screen why does the Manchuko garrison requirement always change when i do nothin
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:33 pm
by freeboy
I must have moved 15 lcus out.. mongolian cav tanks art and such and still am at 9300
Planning on taking that big oil refinery up north did you see it? shows as like 128 oil is that possibly correct?
RE: In the intelligence screen why does the Manchuko garrison requirement always change when i do nothin
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:01 am
by Tanaka
Actually this seems to be a detriment to the japanese player. Its not the requirments that go down but the actual points i have in manchuko. Everytime i order a unit to go anywhere even inside Manchuko my current points fall. It means I cannot move as many units out of manchuko that I really could without the bug.
RE: In the intelligence screen why does the Manchuko garrison requirement always change when i do nothin
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:49 am
by shoevarek
I must have moved 15 lcus out.. mongolian cav tanks art and such and still am at 9300
Actually most mongolian cavalry units are not under Kwantung army command. I also moved them out to China. Do they still count as the Manchukuo garrison?
Planning on taking that big oil refinery up north did you see it? shows as like 128 oil is that possibly correct?
I also try to get there but on the way there are so many Chinese troops that I don't have a hope to get there soon (I am a lousy commander
). Other thing is that after a siege some of it can be damaged so maybe the costs of the offensive will be higher than a reward.
RE: In the intelligence screen why does the Manchuko garrison requirement always change when i do nothin
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:07 am
by Tanaka
ORIGINAL: shoevarek
I must have moved 15 lcus out.. mongolian cav tanks art and such and still am at 9300
Actually most mongolian cavalry units are not under Kwantung army command. I also moved them out to China. Do they still count as the Manchukuo garrison?
yes apparently any unit in the northwest zone counts. so i guess those that are not in the northwest zone do not count