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WITP IN EUROPE?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:14 am
by Phoenix23
What do people think of the prospect of a WITP style game for the West Front? Feasible not Feasible... Good points bad points...
I think 2by3 should get cracking on it! It could possibly be the most amazing West Front gaming experiences of all time if done. Another interesting thing it could do is connect the two games (WITP/WestFront) as a single game on a huge map granted turns would be monolithic and i think i'd go nuts controlling it all but what does everyone think?
RE: WITP IN EUROPE?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:55 am
by Didz
Personally, I think WW2 Europe has been done to death and there are far more playable games on the market covering it.
WiTP is really unique because it covers an area of the war which has not been cover in total elsewhere.
RE: WITP IN EUROPE?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:58 am
by andytimtim
ive already ask this question!
and got a lot of feedback on why it shouldn't be done,
i think a MED (africa/italy etc) style game would be good!! (WitP engine!)
RE: WITP IN EUROPE?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:58 am
by Hexed Gamer
It is possible you will be satisfied with AGW for that itch Phoenix23
RE: WITP IN EUROPE?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:27 pm
by Phoenix23
What is AGW? My thought was a game that was "Europa"-esque if any of ya'll remember that grand old war game
RE: WITP IN EUROPE?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:05 pm
by Hexed Gamer
From the people that made Russo German War (RGW), currently under production Allied German War (AGW).
By Schwerpunct (not sure I spelled that currectly

)
http://www.ghg.net/schwerpt/
RE: WITP IN EUROPE?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:14 pm
by EMO
What do people think of the prospect of a WITP style game for the West Front? Feasible not Feasible... Good points bad points...
I think 2by3 should get cracking on it! It could possibly be the most amazing West Front gaming experiences of all time if done. Another interesting thing it could do is connect the two games (WITP/WestFront) as a single game on a huge map granted turns would be monolithic and i think i'd go nuts controlling it all but what does everyone think?
Perhaps if World at War does well, Matrix will consider a heavyweight WITP version of the Western front.
RE: WITP IN EUROPE?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:38 pm
by IronDuke_slith
I'd advise against it. I remain unconvinced about UV MED. The land combat engine just doesn't cut it. The battle of the Atlantic done UV style would be boring. At a strategic level, sub ops are just not exiting. The occasional chase of a German surface raider (Scharnhost, Bismark etc) would not satisfy those used to nightly destroyer actions off the Canal.
UV MED has more material, but I'm not convinced it would offer the same sort of exitement as anything done in the pacific. Again, the land combat engine would not do the fighting in North Africa any justice. They could improve it of course, but to do it justice, it would take over the game, and not give you the balance you have currently between sea, air and land.
I'd love to see their treatment of the Eastern front, and would pay whatever they wanted for it. I just think WITP has gone about as far as it can in terms of theatres. UV MED might work as an add on if it could be done, but I'm not sure the material is there for anything as meaty as UV.
Still, Just my very humble opinion. Besides, I have a decade of gameplay with WITP ahead of me, so I'm not sure I would even have time for UV MED. [;)]
Regards,
IronDuke
RE: WITP IN EUROPE?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:51 pm
by andytimtim
I'd love to see their treatment of the Eastern front, and would pay whatever they wanted for it
sush!!!!! matrix might hear you![X(]
RE: WITP IN EUROPE?
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:11 am
by ravinhood
ACW looks exactly like what I've been looking for, for a long time now. When's it due to be released? It looks like it has a lot more than BIN is going to have, since it shows parts of Africa and other countries maps.
RE: WITP IN EUROPE?
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:25 am
by Hexed Gamer
First off enjoy some screenies here.
http://www.ghg.net/schwerpt/agwshots.htm
For those that have not played this design, think grognards sort of game. If you are squeemish about moving counters be warned, you get to move counters
A comment on a post in a thread at Wargamer hints at September.
AGW might be a valid christmas gift option this year.
See the thread I mentioned here.
http://www.wargamer.com/forums/tm.asp?m=78978
If you want more info, there was a review at Wargamer for RGW, and they have a Schwerpunct forum at Wargamer as well.