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Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:28 pm
by tsimmonds
Transport aircraft have capacity limits like "2500" and "3500". That would be 2500 and 3500 of what unit of measure? What is the realtionship between this unit of measure and the load points that are used when loading ships?

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:29 pm
by Mr.Frag
drop the last zero ... sorry brain snapped ... drop the last 2 zeros ...

100 pounds = 1 factor, not 10 pounds = 1 factor

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:31 pm
by tsimmonds
So we're saying that a Topsy (Capacity 2500) can take 250 load points, the same as one DD in a FT?

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:03 pm
by Mr.Frag
No, ships are rated differently. Look at the load factors in the Data screen.

make that drop two zeros, my brains running backwards today.

100 pounds = 1 load factor not 10 pounds [;)]

plug it in:

C-47 (10000 lbs) / 100 (convert to load factors) = 100

devide by item size (support = 20) = 100 / 20 = 5

therefore a single C-47 moves 5 Support per trip

A group of 16 = 5 x 16 or 80

A standard HQ is about 300 so 300 / 80 or 4 days at normal range.

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:05 pm
by tsimmonds
That looks better; thanks Frag.

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:20 am
by rominet
ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

No, ships are rated differently. Look at the load factors in the Data screen.

make that drop two zeros, my brains running backwards today.

100 pounds = 1 load factor not 10 pounds [;)]

plug it in:

C-47 (10000 lbs) / 100 (convert to load factors) = 100

devide by item size (support = 20) = 100 / 20 = 5

therefore a single C-47 moves 5 Support per trip

A group of 16 = 5 x 16 or 80

A standard HQ is about 300 so 300 / 80 or 4 days at normal range.

Well and what about supply?

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:36 pm
by Mistmatz
Wasn't there also a limitation in maximum size? For example planes cannot transport tanks and other heavy equipment. Can't remember the size limit or relation to load capacity though. Anybodyelse maybe?

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:17 pm
by witpqs
What are guys, archeologists? How did you even find this thread?

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:07 pm
by Cav Trooper
My question isn't how they find this thread, but where and why their search even began?????


RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:31 pm
by Charbroiled
ORIGINAL: 3rd ACR Tanker

My question isn't how they find this thread, but where and why their search even began?????


It was dug up through the sticky threads and I gave a link to it in another post to answer a question.

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:31 pm
by rominet
ORIGINAL: Charbroiled

ORIGINAL: 3rd ACR Tanker

My question isn't how they find this thread, but where and why their search even began?????


It was dug up through the sticky threads and I gave a link to it in another post to answer a question.

That's right, i am not an archeologist, just a cat [:D] but i don't have the answer to my question yet.

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:02 pm
by Yamato hugger
If I remember correctly 1 supply point is 100 transport points. But if you would like to confirm this, fly a supply mission to an unoccupied base and note supply levels before and after and number of planes.

Then you can answer your own question.

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:52 am
by Micke II

A load capacity of 2000 for a transport plane as Dakota C47 allows to carry 5 supply point per rotation.
The transport load for a combat squad is 2000 points but 4000 for a support squad.
Dakota can carry also small gun as AT 57 mm but smaller air plane can’t.
A seaplane as Emily as a load capacity of 4400 points, american Coronada 8000 points !
 

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:16 pm
by rominet
ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

If I remember correctly 1 supply point is 100 transport points. But if you would like to confirm this, fly a supply mission to an unoccupied base and note supply levels before and after and number of planes.

Then you can answer your own question.

Well, nice idea, i did the test:
with 16 C-47 Dakota and an increase of 80 supply per turn.
As any C-47 has a load capacity of 10000, it gives
1 supply point per 2000 load capacity per day

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:25 pm
by Oldguard1970
Air transport in stock has another twist to it.  The allies can airlift half-tracks and light tanks!  Obviously, that is not faithful to historical capabilities.  I guess it is some sort of glitch in a data-base value. 

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:17 am
by Milman
When you say "transport point", Do you mean "AP point" or "AK point" ?

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:36 am
by Feinder
2000 AC load factor = 1 supply
 
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RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:06 pm
by Yamato hugger
ORIGINAL: Milman

When you say "transport point", Do you mean "AP point" or "AK point" ?

Neither. A C-47 has 10,000 "transport points". In this case 1 "transport point" is a pound. A "transport point" on an AP means something else, on an AK something else, and an oiler some else yet. A supply point is a ton (I guess) on an airplane. I was thinking it was 100 pounds. Im human I make mistakes (and Im old and have forgotten a lot of this stuff).

If you use supply being 1 ton as a basis for weight / volume then you can figure that an AK allowed load is how much it can carry in tons. APs are different and rather than a supply point taking up weight, it takes up volume (hence why 1 supply point takes 2 points of room on an AP, it isnt that the supplies weigh more on an AP but the way they have to stow it).

RE: Transport a/c capacity

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:23 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: OldGuard1970

Air transport in stock has another twist to it. The allies can airlift half-tracks and light tanks! Obviously, that is not faithful to historical capabilities. I guess it is some sort of glitch in a data-base value.

Didja know that IRL the Allies in the Pacific figured out how to torch small bulldozers and duece and a halfs in 2 and transport them on the lowly C 47?.
They would re-assemble them at their destination.
Could not depend on them having a long life, but they were there when needed.
Of course the C 46 and C 54 did not need them to be cut down.