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For those that growl about naval combat results...

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:17 am
by 2Stepper
... here's a good one that just makes sense! Dutch raiders catching a sizable IJN landing force. Good damage dealt for older dutch raiders (CL's and DD's). Daytime combat that lasted for 4 rounds.

No complaints, and now that I understand how sighted, vs unsighted works in the displays it makes total sense. [8D]

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Day Time Surface Combat at 22,51

Japanese Ships
MSW W.3
PG Chosa Maru, Shell hits 2
PC Ch 8
PC Ch 9, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Aobasan Maru, Shell hits 1
AK Asakasan Maru, Shell hits 2
AK Atago Maru, Shell hits 7, on fire
AP Awa Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Enju Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Heiyo Maru
AP Higashiyama Maru
AK Kansai Maru
AP Kyushu Maru
AK Sado Maru
AK Sakura Maru, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL De Ruyter
CL Tromp, Shell hits 1
DD Banckert
DD Witte de With
DD Kortenaer
DD Piet Hein
DD Van Ghent

Japanese ground losses:
134 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

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RE: For those that growl about naval combat results...

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:49 am
by Nomad
Isn't nice when you start understanding all the complexities and interreactions? [:)]

RE: For those that growl about naval combat results...

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:58 am
by 2Stepper
ORIGINAL: Nomad

Isn't nice when you start understanding all the complexities and interreactions? [:)]

TOTALLY! [8D] I was trying to rationalize when folks would complain about fights like this where one ship gets pummeled and none of the others take so much as a hit... I remembered when Kid pointed it out that only 3 of 12 ships were even sighted. So the results made sense. I still think in terms of the interface that "unsighted" ships could be represented a little better... "greyed" out or something similar. Or a bland icon of some kind... Still... Having an understanding of the current intent makes surface actions just fine by me for now. [8D]

RE: For those that growl about naval combat results...

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:42 am
by frank1970
Why show them at all? Hey, they are not sighted! [:)]

RE: For those that growl about naval combat results...

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:03 pm
by Ron Saueracker
I'll field a question. What do you think the "unsighted" Dutch DD was doing?

RE: For those that growl about naval combat results...

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:12 pm
by freeboy
Engine stoped temporarly, then was making up time trying to catch up, lost sigth of the group until action started and muzle(sp?) blasts seen on the horizon, by the time he got there the battle commander order ed a withdrawel

RE: For those that growl about naval combat results...

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:00 pm
by Bradley7735
Just because the Dutch DD wasn't sighted, doesn't mean it wasn't participating. Remember that the IJN ships with names are sighted by the Dutch. The Dutch ships with names are sighted by the IJN. Just because it isn't sighted doesn't mean it has or has not spotted an IJN ship. And, just because you see the ships name on the screen, it doesn't mean that ship has spotted any opponent.

Watch the combats play out. Generally if you see an unsighted ship open fire, it will become sighted within a couple of salvos.