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Allies of Germany

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:08 pm
by robot
Im getting ready to start a new campaign Germany Eastern front. Will be using a Company of SS. Was wondering if any one could help me on who might be fighting with them there. Wanted to make a Company of one of there allies. The first battle or two will be against the poles. Was any of the other Axis nations with them there and who. My memory is shot and i cant for the life of me think of anyone but the Italians and Japan. The starting time for this campaign will be 1939. Any help you can give and if you know which would be a good nation to join them up with. Also most of the other battles will be against the Russians if this helps. I dont mind fudging some on history if this helps. Thank you

RE: Allies of Germany

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 5:25 pm
by Voriax
Robot, Slovaks were the only allies of Germany that were with them already in 1939. See: http://www.feldgrau.com/a-slovakia.html
Browsing the Feldgrau site will give you information of other allies and collaborators.

Voriax

RE: Allies of Germany

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 5:51 pm
by Maciste
On the Eastern Front, when began the fight against Soviet Union, the allies of Germany were Italy (infantry, and only L6/40 light tanks as armor, if you wanna be historically accurate); Romanian army (almost infantry too) and Hungary (infantry, artillery and armor, though the Zrinyi I and the Turan III never went into production). Croatian and Slovakian soldiers fighted too alongside the germans, and you can browse some other nations to use their SS foreign legions (Holland, Denmark, Norway, Vichy France, Belgium and Italy). Note that the renegade russian troops commanded by Vlasov were never employed on Eastern Front... ¡but in Normandy! [:D][:D][:D] so you shouldn't buy russian units, unless you'd want to represent captured units lookalikes (those abandoned on battle).

RE: Allies of Germany

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:43 pm
by robot
Thanx Mciste think ill go with Hungarien and maybe some Croation. Thats what i needed tho thanx for fast reply.

RE: Allies of Germany

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:05 pm
by Yamashita
And of course the Finns from 41!

RE: Allies of Germany

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 9:16 pm
by Maciste
You're right, Yamashita, I forgot the Finns. Also we got the Spanish Blue Division and Bulgary... but I'm not sure if bulgarian forces did actually fought somewhere, for its King Boris II never declared war to Russia.

RE: Allies of Germany

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 9:48 pm
by Voriax
Bulgarian troops fought mainly against Germans from 1944 onwards.

Voriax

RE: Allies of Germany

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:27 pm
by Maciste
but until 1944 the were formally members of the Axis... ¿what did they did before? If not military, ¿what kind of support they gave to Axis powers?

RE: Allies of Germany

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:34 pm
by Poopyhead
In later years some of the actual Waffen SS units were made up of non-Germans. There was an Albanian unit and I believe some Lithuanians too. The Nazis also trained a group of Indians (not native Americans) to return to the sub-continent and start an insurrection. They infiltrated in through the middle east and actually started fighting the British. That might make a uniquely interesting sort of bizarro world campaign.

RE: Allies of Germany

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:27 am
by MOTHER
Brandenbergers at the later stages of ww2 were all volunteers ,comprised from various countries as well as germans so thats a bit of "inhouse" differentiation from the regular troops.[X(]

RE: Allies of Germany

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:10 pm
by Gvaihir
Bulgarians only got themselves involved in the dismemberment of Yugoslavia and the butchering of the country. The occupied East and South Serbia (now known as Macedonia), but as far as the Eastern front is concerned they never sent troops officialy but some volontiers have been reported on the eastern front as espionage squads.
As '44 came along with the the roaring bear they found themselves overwhelmed and swiched sides... That was the full contribution of Bulgaria in WW II.

Gvaihir

RE: Allies of Germany

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:52 pm
by FNG
ORIGINAL: Poopyhead

In later years some of the actual Waffen SS units were made up of non-Germans. There was an Albanian unit and I believe some Lithuanians too. The Nazis also trained a group of Indians (not native Americans) to return to the sub-continent and start an insurrection. They infiltrated in through the middle east and actually started fighting the British. That might make a uniquely interesting sort of bizarro world campaign.

Also Dutch (largest non-German SS contingent), French, Croatian, Scandinavian, Ukrainian. Some nationalities had their own divisions - Charlemagne for the French, Wiking and Nordland for the Dutch & Scandinavians, etc. There was a small British SS unit, used mainly for attempting to recruit British POWs. IIRC some of the last units defending Berlin in 1945 were foreign SS units, who realised that they had no hope of survival if they surrendered.