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Name This...(148)
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:45 pm
by Brady
???

RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:02 pm
by Desertdaddy
USS Yorktown, Mid afternoon 4 June 42, during battle of Midway. Photo taken from one of the escorts.
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:07 pm
by timtom
Damn...beat me to it...couldda been my first
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:24 pm
by Cap Mandrake
Yes..the Yorktown. I think the picture shows the Yorktown taking a torpedo hit from on of the 33 Kates in the second wave. She is already damaged from 3 bomb hits and the crash of a Val into her deck earlier in the day and was only able to make about 20 kts at the time.
What is that splash to the right in the picture.....? AA fire hitting the water..?
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:54 am
by cyberwop36
"Mandrake my boy, remember you presicous bodily fluids"
a man's essence comes from having pure bodily fluids
Feed me ammo Mandrake.
i love that movie
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:07 am
by Fallschirmjager
5" shells make large clouds.
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:09 am
by dtravel
Another opportunity for me to make a snarky comment. [:D]
(Although I was going to say Yorktown at Midway also, but too many others beat me to it.)
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:24 am
by RUPD3658
ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager
5" shells make large clouds.
But in the shape of a plus sign (+)? Looks almost like a Baka on a attack run. Didn't the photographer clean his lens?
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:39 pm
by tsimmonds
ORIGINAL: RUPD3658
ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager
5" shells make large clouds.
But in the shape of a plus sign (+)? Looks almost like a Baka on a attack run. Didn't the photographer clean his lens?
This photo took several seconds to load, from the top down as usual. I thought the uppermost flak bursts looked familiar, but the moment I saw the "+", I knew what photo it was.[:)]
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:58 pm
by Rainerle
Actually the first one I would have known [:D]
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:42 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Rainerle
Actually the first one I would have known [:D]
Phht..I could tell from the top of the first cloud BEFORE the first flak burst [:'(]
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:46 pm
by Belisarius
Almost too easy.
The splash is interesting. Torpedo? Bomb? Shell? Debris? Aircraft going down?
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:17 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Belisarius
Almost too easy.
The splash is interesting. Torpedo? Bomb? Shell? Debris? Aircraft going down?
Dont think its a torpedo as there is black smoke in the splash..most likely AAA fire as there are splashes in the distance that appear to be in line. Could be a plane going in to the drink though. Dont think its a bomb as this appears to be the Kate attack on the already damaged Yorktown (note list and smoke).
Would a AAA round with a timed fuse detonate like that if it hit the water? I dont know.
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:00 am
by Brady
USS Yorktown, it is[:)]
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:15 am
by spence
That big splash to the right looks very much like a 5" shell splash.
Would that be the Kate that dropped the torpedo which is hitting Yorktown in the
distance above and slightly right of Yorktown between the two flak bursts? (Looks almost like another plane above that one and farther away).
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:26 am
by Belisarius
ORIGINAL: spence
That big splash to the right looks very much like a 5" shell splash.
Would that be the Kate that dropped the torpedo which is hitting Yorktown in the
distance above and slightly right of Yorktown between the two flak bursts? (Looks almost like another plane above that one and farther away).
Wouldn't know if it's
the Kate, but it's very likely to be
a Kate at least.
"The other" plane is probably a dust speck. But the first you mention is certainly an aircraft.
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:34 am
by von Murrin
ORIGINAL: spence
That big splash to the right looks very much like a 5" shell splash.
Would that be the Kate that dropped the torpedo which is hitting Yorktown in the
distance above and slightly right of Yorktown between the two flak bursts? (Looks almost like another plane above that one and farther away).
Highly likely. I can't remember which book has the account, but I remember reading descriptions of the escorts attempting to fire 5" and 8" shells into the water directly in front of attacking Kates because they were flying so low. I really want to say
Miracle at Midway, but I can't remember to save my life.
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:26 am
by Belisarius
Am I the only one who finds 5" a bit large for Kate shooting? [&:]
I mean, it's fine for level bombers, but can they really be fast enough for tracking an attack aircraft bearing down on you?
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:39 am
by von Murrin
Well, there's no proximity fuze at that moment, but wouldn't you rather try?[:D]
RE: Name This...(148)
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:41 am
by tsimmonds
I mean, it's fine for level bombers, but can they really be fast enough for tracking an attack aircraft bearing down on you?
If an aircraft is "bearing down on you", there is very little tracking involved. The plane is heading towards you, pointing at you. It is coming closer, but there is almost no deflection. The only good thing about being the target.....