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Leaders

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:04 pm
by gts2096
using Caltone's leader spreadsheet i have a question?

here are 2 carrier TF commanders and their ratings



McCain J. overall 54 insp 53 surface ships 22 airops 75
Bellinger, P.N.L overall 64 insp 64 surface ships 54 airops 67

Which is the better Carrier TF Commander???

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:23 am
by gts2096
Hey gang, I'm waiting patiently in Nouma for orders on who to send out......[:D][:D][:D]

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:10 am
by Herrbear
I would go with Bellinger

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:11 am
by Central Blue
send McCain.

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:15 am
by Tankerace
I usually use Bellinger first, then McCain.

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:15 am
by Caltone
I was just checking them both out in the file [:D]

I agree Bellinger is the better choice, in addition to the above stats he also has a slight edge in aggressiveness, something I want in my CV commanders [8D]

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:18 am
by gts2096
And your reasoning behind these orders.......[:)]

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:22 am
by Caltone
For me at least (and I usually play Japan):

If you look at the stats you listed, Bellinger has the edge in everything but airops where he is 8 pts under. Both men do have good airop ratings though, they are in the top 3 in US RADM's. While airops is a primary need for a CV commander, I think Bellinger's edge in inspiration and aggressiveness tips the scales in his favor. You are making a good choice with either man though.

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:22 am
by gts2096
ORIGINAL: Caltone

I was just checking them both out in the file [:D]

I agree Bellinger is the better choice, in addition to the above stats he also has a slight edge in aggressiveness, something I want in my CV commanders [8D]

So, do you think "overall" is the standard by which Carrier TF commanders are picked? McCain has a better "air-ops"....How are you deciding?

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:24 am
by Caltone
Think I snuck a reply in as you were posting gts, hope that's what you were looking for. Really you can't go wrong with either man, the other US RADM to consider is Spruance of course.

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:28 am
by gts2096
ORIGINAL: Caltone

Think I snuck a reply in as you were posting gts, hope that's what you were looking for. Really you can't go wrong with either man, the other US RADM to consider is Spruance of course.

Yes, you answered my question.[&o] Its just a shame that we don't have a little bit more info. about commanders when "in-game" and trying to make a choice. Your spread sheet is a blessing......[:)]

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:41 am
by Central Blue
So far as I know, Bellinger never commanded a carrier, much less a task force during the war, much less put to sea. He does seem to have been one OG's of aviation in the Navy.

But, maybe you should follow the game numbers, where ever they come from.

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:44 am
by Reluctant Kamikazi
Yes, you answered my question. Its just a shame that we don't have a little bit more info. about commanders when "in-game" and trying to make a choice. Your spread sheet is a blessing......

Where is this blessed spreadsheet?

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:00 am
by Reluctant Kamikazi
Found it...

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:39 am
by Williamb
Hmm Ineresting. Wonder if that is John MCCains father ? he was a WWII Admiral in the Pacific.

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:16 am
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: William Amos

Hmm Ineresting. Wonder if that is John MCCains father ? he was a WWII Admiral in the Pacific.

Pretty sure it is.

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:22 am
by tsimmonds
Pretty sure he's his grandfather. His father was also a naval officer of some note.

RE: Leaders

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:32 am
by pry
ORIGINAL: irrelevant

Pretty sure he's his grandfather. His father was also a naval officer of some note.

Yeah the McCain (John. S. Sr.) in the game is the Senators Grandfather, His father (Jonh S. Jr.) was IIRC CincPac during part the Vietnam war