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will we see bin soon???
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:11 am
by forager
i am really anxious to play the game!
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:55 am
by Fred98
Yes!
But we don't know the date - should be amatter of weeks
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:27 am
by SlapBone
ORIGINAL: Joe 98
Yes!
But we don't know the date - should be amatter of weeks
No....it should be a matter of days. It may ACTUALLY be a matter of weeks but it SHOULD be any day now

RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:27 am
by benpark
I am compulsively checking the news page-I need my fix!!
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:49 am
by Rob Gjessing
Any day now guys.. (I think?!?!?)
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:29 am
by freeboy
we want it now.. or later, or sooner, anytime actually[:-]
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:38 pm
by Rainbow7
But has SSG even signed off on the game yet? I would think it would take a while even after this happens, as Matrix has to do its own QA.
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:16 pm
by HercMighty
You would think with things so late in the game they would have a date by now. Looking through the posts the last semi official word was before September.
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:38 pm
by marc420
Hey guys! Yeah, I want to see this game too, but I understand them not committing to a date till its done. I do software product mangement (not games, and in no way associated with SSG or Matrix), so I know how these last days before a release go. They are probably either at the point where they are testing, finding single issues that need to be fixed, then retesting. The problem with that is that you don't quite know when that's going to be done. Its not until you run the next test do you know if everything's right or if it needs a little more work. So you think you'll be done Wednesday, but instead it ends up next week as you find a couple more little things. That makes it really hard to tell people a firm date.
Also, you hit a point where you are dealing with outside vendors for things like printing boxes, manuals, CD inserts, making CDs etc. All of that has to come together, and most of its out of a product managers control. So sometimes you get just one of those a few days late and it delays everything. Again, in the big picture it isn't a big deal, but it makes it very hard to give someone a date.
So, yes, I'm drooling over the prospects of getting this game, and I'm coming out here regularly with my credit card close at hand just hoping to find it announced and done. But I'm not surprised they aren't giving an exact date yet just because its probably very hard to pin down and exact date right now.
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:08 pm
by SlapBone
ORIGINAL: marc420
Also, you hit a point where you are dealing with outside vendors for things like printing boxes, manuals, CD inserts, making CDs etc. All of that has to come together, and most of its out of a product managers control. So sometimes you get just one of those a few days late and it delays everything. Again, in the big picture it isn't a big deal, but it makes it very hard to give someone a date.
Actually, I don't think manuals and boxes are going to be a problem with this game. For direct download thay are probably just testing the installers and the total package.
Pay close attention to what Rob says. We are really close to getting the game. That's why most of us are hanging around chomping at the bit.
They just want to surprise us. I just want to return the surprise factor but giving the $50 really fast [:'(]
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:09 pm
by freeboy
I am ready, pbem anyone? lol
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:24 pm
by marc420
I was watching Matrix and WITP, even though I didn't buy it. Don't know why, but it took Matrix and DR about a week to get the download setup after the game was available (box and CD) at Origins.
Note the above comments about drool and keeping a credit card nearby.
For PBEM, I've already entered Twinkle's tourney. Sounds like a good way to lose a game early on!

RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:19 pm
by freeboy
witp and BIN are very diferent, and the whole going to Origins was what appeared an all hands drill, so hopefully the going to gold/release at dr will be quick, a day or two.. maybe Matrix SSG wont even release a seperate Gold notice, it will be" ok here you go" no worries as this game looks great.... Somebody mentioned the ai being actually hard.. can you believe that?
Anyway I am looking for a pbem, I am panzmatt at R5, that will be interested in multi-turns per day for the first few days.... ladder or no, doesn't matter....
pm me if interested
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:28 am
by Pete AU
Do you know if there will be a link from one camaign to the other. Carring over less units if you were less than successful etc?
I don't suppose so, but it would be nice...
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:52 pm
by BrubakerII
ORIGINAL: freeboy
Somebody mentioned the ai being actually hard.. can you believe that?
Yes you can believe that...
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:58 pm
by Rob Gjessing
Whilst you are all waiting for BIN to be released, I am just in the process of uploading Version 2 of the Operation Husky Scenario for KP. Version 2 sees a revised 'Road to Palermo' scenario which is balanced perfectly between Brubaker and myself.. and I must thank Brubaker for the hard work and design he did on that one. This upgrade also includes the Full Husky Campaign - which I know people have been waiting on.
Whilst the campaign at this stage is only available as PBEM mode - (sorry no AI included.. I just dont have the time at the moment.. if anyone else wants to work on it.. feel free.. ) its a pretty interesting and fun campaign between two humans.
The So if you own KP, head over to the SSG site and select the Custom Scenarios Link to download it.
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:05 pm
by freeboy
A hard ia, plus modifyiers will add to this game, I know that there are time we wait for or pbem oponents turn[:D] Hey Rob, wheres my turn[:D]
Actually the ai was pretty easy to beat in Korsun, so this is GREAT news, but a pbem oponent if always fun, too bad I seem to lose so often.
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:08 pm
by Fred98
Well done Rob!
As for the AI, my best victories come when I play myself [:D]
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:38 am
by marc420
Are we there yet?
Yep, back again just looking making sure no announcements have gone up in the last four hours!
RE: will we see bin soon???
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 8:41 pm
by Rubblestone
i am still a little confused, how will BiN be sold? will it be available in stores? or is it a download only or can you purchase a disc version on-line?