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Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank?

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:51 pm
by vulkansanex
Lets see if I am capable of posting a picture here..

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See if anyone knows anything about this? Called an ARL44.

Looks like a Renault D2 body um.. with a Patton turret...??

Post war French - U.S. lovechild??

Anybody know? Just have the image in a WWII book - but no description..

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RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank?

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:42 pm
by Belisarius
Ah, ARL-44. That's a Char B1 chassis (with plate skirts) and a Schneider turret w/ 90mm gun. It was an "undercover" project started by the French during the German occupation, and got started for real with the liberation. First one ready in 1946, I only think they were used once in a parade in the early 50's though. Not many built.

RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank?

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:21 pm
by Major Destruction
The tank is modelled in the game. Here is a picture of that parade, perhaps......

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for more information, go here http://www.chars-francais.net/archives/arl44.htm

RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:56 am
by stevemk1a
Is it in the French OOB's or some other?

RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:18 pm
by Maciste
Yes, it was the first tank developed for the Post-WWII France, though the design was from the 1940, only about 50-55 tanks were ever built for it was cheaper to buy massproduced m47 Pattons to USA than to massproduce the ARL-44.

RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:25 pm
by Riun T
The turret looks solid but what was the side body armor thickness?

RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank?

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:45 pm
by Belisarius
Incredibly tough to find resources on, unless you happen to sit with a "French post WWII armor" encyclopedia...

The Char B1-bis had 60mm of side armor, and a WAG on my part would be that the ARL 44 in any case didn't have less...

RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank?

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:05 pm
by Voriax
This page has some armour values..unfortunately it is in Czech..so perhaps one of our Czech members could translate or try to find a web translator.

http://www.mainbattletanks.czweb.org/Tanky/arl44.htm

Voriax

RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank?

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:18 pm
by Major Destruction
Guessing only, because this is the only value with vertical armour and therefore represents the side armour,
the value of thickness is 45mm
- Boky typ/tlouš?ka (mm)/úhel (°) .......... ocel/45/0