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Originally posted by Paul Goodman:
T-34 M42 is available Oct 42
T-34 M43 is available Oct 42

Would I be correct to assume that M42 availability should be Oct 41? If not, what?

T-34 M43 has 4 rounds of subcaliber ammo. Is there any means to fire this stuff when you want to? What controls this?

Also, the oob reflects the superiority of the big cats in terms of optics, penetration and armor to the various T-34's and the KV-1/85 and IS-I and II. However, it does not reflect the fact that Soviets built these at approximately 3 times the rate that the Germans did (for this I threw out 1942 when Germans built nearly nothing). It does seem that if the oob accurately models the superiority of the German models, then the Soviet models should be realistically cheaper, no more than one third the cost for comparable models. I realize the comparison is a little difficult, as the T-34M4X is 3 to 4 tons heavier than the PzIV, but the T-34/85 is much lighter than the Panther and that the Stalins fit in between the Tiger and the Panther in size. I think that 3 to 1 actually gives the Germans the benefit of the doubt, as at least some production must go to the West.

Paul

Originally posted by steel:


Yes ! I have your side.

Why Su equipment is so expencive vs Ge.When play Ge vs Su, there is no way to win Su side expect more battle points give Soviet player.OOB detailed is not very accurate via
Soviet.

Can somebody do something and correct this kind foolines.Cheapier units and muts earlier
year some pantzers (T34,Su-85,JS1-4,T44)

This mistakes is been very long time SPWAW.When SPWAW first time came out,then there was right cost Ge vs Su, but now days
German are higher rankin list, I think (Very sad if some country get bonus points).


Steel

Originally posted by Paul Goodman:
J, don't you really mean "fun to play from the German side?" While assigning purchase value based on the quality of a tank may have certain merits, did any one include suitability for mass production in that evaluation? I think not. However, as the Red Army so well demonstrated, this is a significant factor.

Furthermore, while all this was going on (the rating of AFV's by quality), the SU had a inherit purchasing point advantage. This has been eliminated in 5.0/5.1. The result has been to unbalance the game in favor of the German side.

Does anyone know what the correct availability of the T-34M42 is?

Paul

Originally posted by johansson:
Hi IMHO the cost of the units should (as they are) be calculated after how good the unit is not how large number any country had of them. Would it be a fun game if you could outnumber every German panzer 10-1 whit T34’s for the same prize? The points have one purpose and that is to make even battles how are fun to play!

Originally posted by Tortfeasor:
if a German player had Tigers for 1000 points and the Russian player had T-34-m43 for the same amount. I wonder ho? would win the game of year 1942!
Tiger costs 169 points for 1014 points he would get 6 pcs tigers and the Russian would get 8 pcs T-34-m43 for a amount of 1048 points

Originally posted by Tortfeasor:
As I have noted, that in tank battles you need at least 4 to 5 T34-m43 to knok out a Tiger and survive to bury your dead.

Originally posted by Fredde:
i usually buy a very small number of tanks of the biggest sort possible, and the rest infantry and arty.