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Name This...(211)

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:38 pm
by Brady
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RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:39 pm
by tsimmonds
USS Stewart

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:40 pm
by Smiffus64
Looks like a destroyer, it has things that look like depthcharches aft.

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:42 pm
by tsimmonds
She was put into drydock at Tjillitjap (or was it Soerabaja?), but because of poor shoring fell over when the water was pumped out. The Japanese salvaged her and used her as a DE/PC/PG/Thing.

Actually, this is an interesting story and deserves a bit more space here. From Hazegray:
Stewart, as the most severely damaged ship [following the Battle of the Java Sea], was the first to enter the floating drydock at Surabaya on 22 February. However, she was inadequately supported in the dock, and, as the dock rose, the ship fell off the keel blocks onto her side in 12 feet of water bending her propeller shafts and causing further hull damage. With the port under enemy air attack and in danger of falling to the enemy, the ship could not be repaired. Responsibility for the destruction of the ship was given to naval authorities ashore, and Stewart's last crew members left the embattled port on the afternoon of 22 February. Subsequently, demolition charges were set off within the ship, a Japanese bomb hit amidships further damaged her; and, before the port was evacuated on 2 March, the drydock containing her was scuttled. Her name was struck from the Navy list on 25 March 1942 and was Soon assigned to a new destroyer escort.

Later in the war, American pilots began reporting an American warship operating far within enemy waters. The ship had a Japanese bunked funnel but the lines for her four-piper hull were unmistakable. After almost a year under water, Stewart had been raised by the Japanese in February 1943 and commissioned by them on 20 September 1943 as Patrol Boat No. 102. She was armed with two 3" guns and operated with the Japanese Southwest Area Fleet on escort duty until arriving at Kure for repairs in November 1944. There her antiaircraft battery was augmented and she was given a light tripod foremast. She then sailed for the Southwest Pacific, but the American reconquest of the Philippines blocked her way. On 28 April 1945, still under control of the Southwest Area Fleet, she was bombed and damaged by United States Army aircraft at Mokpo, Korea. She was transferred on 30 April to the control of the Kure Navy District; and, in August 1945, was found by American occupation forces laid up in Hiro Bay near Kure.

In an emotional ceremony on 29 October 1945, the old ship was recommissioned in the United States Navy at Kure. Although officially called simply DD-224, she was nicknamed by her crew "RAMP-224," standing for "Recovered Allied Military Personnel." On the trip home, her engines gave out near Guam, and she arrived at San Francisco in early March 1946 at the end of a tow line. DD-224 was struck from the Navy list on 17 April 1946, decommissioned on 23 May 1946, and sunk a day later off San Francisco as a target for aircraft.

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:55 pm
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: irrelevant

USS Stewart

Yep.

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:45 pm
by steveh11Matrix
That's an amazing story, one that I hadn't heard before. Almost "The ship that wouldn't die". Sad that she was expended in that way at the end.

Steve.

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:24 am
by GBirkn
Great story! But the real question: is she in the OOB (for both sides)?

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:46 am
by tsimmonds
Never seen this pic before; studying it, looks like she's holed amidships. That would make this after she was "scuttled", which means that this pic is of the Japanese salvage operation. If so, interesting method; pulling her upright with ropes?

Not sure about this though, she doesn't look like she's been lying on her side in dirty harbor water for a year....

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:48 am
by Onime No Kyo
how do you scuttle a drydock? [X(]

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:04 am
by tsimmonds
ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

how do you scuttle a drydock? [X(]
A floating drydock; it is itself a vessel.....

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RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:11 am
by Onime No Kyo
How do they get the thing to go up and down, water ballast?

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:14 am
by tsimmonds
Yeah, like a canal lock, you open the doors, the water comes in.....to get it back out you use pumps or compressed air.

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:09 am
by tigercub
is the destroyer USS Stewart

a pope class?

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:33 am
by Brady
USS Stewart, it is[:)]

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:14 am
by ADavidB
Your photo is a really interesting one itself. Which BB is that, and which coastline is it off of?

It's interesting that one of the big guns in the first turret is at maximum elevation. I guess that they are testing the elevation mechanism.

When you think about it, that floating drydock is some amazingly good engineering for the time.

Dave Baranyi

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:13 am
by tsimmonds
ORIGINAL: ADavidB

Your photo is a really interesting one itself. Which BB is that, and which coastline is it off of?

It's interesting that one of the big guns in the first turret is at maximum elevation. I guess that they are testing the elevation mechanism.

When you think about it, that floating drydock is some amazingly good engineering for the time.

Dave Baranyi
That's West Virginia in floating drydock ABSD-1, off Aessi Island, Espiritu Santo, New Hebrides, on 13 November 1944. She was docked for upkeep and repair to propellers damaged when she touched ground off Leyte on 21 October. ABSD-1 was made up of 10 sections (along the side you can see the pontoon-like construction of the base) which could be mixed and matched with sections from the Navy's other big floating drydocks. Here's another pic of the same beast:

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RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:17 am
by tsimmonds
They could lift just about anything that could float. Here's Iowa in ABSD-2 at Ulithi.

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RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:42 am
by tsimmonds
ORIGINAL: tigercub

is the destroyer USS Stewart

a pope class?
Pope class, flush-decker, four-piper, whatever you want to call her.

RE: That's a great picture...

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:45 am
by RevRick
I believe that is when the Iowa was in because one of her shafts had run a bearing in the stern, and the shaft had dropped three inches or so, which was not good on the engines. They had to replace the bearing so she could get back to full speed without ruining the shaft. That's what happens when you don't have a proper refit capacity, and would be considered some really bad system damage.

RE: Name This...(211)

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:15 pm
by ADavidB
Wow - yet another amazing photo!

That would have been a Japanese submariner's dream to be able to sneak up on a floating dry dock loaded like that.

Thanks -

Dave Baranyi