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Player control request
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:00 am
by Ron Saueracker
This has been a bit awkward when playing one day turns, but am playing a two day cycle game and is going to be a pain. I would like to know if it would be possible to get a TF to follow another TF AFTER it reaches its destination and/or completes it's mission. For instance. You have an invasion force of 3 TFs: CV/BB/AP. All originate 1 hex out of target hex. AP and BB go in and perform their respective missions, and they either must patrol in target hex (requiring LRCAP from carriers which can't do LRCAP and other VF missions simultaneously) or they return to their home base, exposing themselves. I would like them to be able to return to the main formation's hex and follow the CVs. My old Task Group idea would be better but...[;)]
RE: Player control request
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:36 am
by pasternakski
If you have two CVs in the same TF, one can do LRCAP while the other provides CAP/Escort.
RE: Player control request
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:50 am
by Oznoyng
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
This has been a bit awkward when playing one day turns, but am playing a two day cycle game and is going to be a pain. I would like to know if it would be possible to get a TF to follow another TF AFTER it reaches its destination and/or completes it's mission. For instance. You have an invasion force of 3 TFs: CV/BB/AP. All originate 1 hex out of target hex. AP and BB go in and perform their respective missions, and they either must patrol in target hex (requiring LRCAP from carriers which can't do LRCAP and other VF missions simultaneously) or they return to their home base, exposing themselves. I would like them to be able to return to the main formation's hex and follow the CVs. My old Task Group idea would be better but...[;)]
I would suggest splitting the fighter airgroups and setting each to different missions. If you have one carrier, you can split a single fighter group and then assign 2 to CAP and 1 to LRCAP over the transports.
RE: Player control request
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:51 am
by Bosun
Ron, I think, concerning your central question, you're F'd.[:D]
RE: Player control request
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:58 am
by Ron Saueracker
I requested split CV fighter squadrons in another thread...just used the LR CAP issue as a highlight to the request in this thread. Can we get TFs to return to another TF's hex instead of their home base? Necessary for coordination reasons.
RE: Player control request
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:01 am
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: pasternakski
If you have two CVs in the same TF, one can do LRCAP while the other provides CAP/Escort.
Who escortsthe bombers from the CV that is performing LR CAP? The other CV? Good luck. One air group butchered.
RE: Player control request
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:09 am
by Bosun
Hey Ron, you are sounding like your candidate just lost the election. LOl[;)]
RE: Player control request
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:12 am
by Oznoyng
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: pasternakski
If you have two CVs in the same TF, one can do LRCAP while the other provides CAP/Escort.
Who escortsthe bombers from the CV that is performing LR CAP? The other CV? Good luck. One air group butchered.
Split the fighter group and assign missions by section... see below
RE: Player control request
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:16 am
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: Oznoyng
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: pasternakski
If you have two CVs in the same TF, one can do LRCAP while the other provides CAP/Escort.
Who escortsthe bombers from the CV that is performing LR CAP? The other CV? Good luck. One air group butchered.
Split the fighter group and assign missions by section... see below
There is no option for this for Allied CV groups that I can see. Tried ther other day. Is this touched up or is this in the game and I'm blind!?[8D]
RE: Player control request
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:28 am
by Bosun
Thanks OZ, I hadn't noticed that feature.
RE: Player control request
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:34 am
by Oznoyng
Nope, not touched up.
It is in for IJN... Although I must admit I started to do this from a game where all my CV's were at sea and I could not do it. Might need to be in port. Hmmm...Won't work on Saratoga's VF-3 in SD... weird. Gonna tinker with it a bit. Maybe it is an OOB issue or a bug - er feature - because the max size changes on the group.
RE: Player control request
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:51 am
by Oznoyng
No luck atm. I haven't quite figured out how the game decides whether an airgroup or LCU can be split and rebuilt. I have seen the split / rebuild button greyed out in weird situations. For instance, I have had a divided division with all components in a hex, but not able to rebuild it. I have also had Airgroups that can split one turn and not the next, or where the button changes if I save and restore. Maybe Mr. Frag can impart some wisdom. Heck, I might even check the manual - after I wake up in the morning.
This is Waffleface, signing off.
RE: Player control request
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:38 am
by Ron Saueracker
Absolutely nothing for Allied CVs,at least American. Obviously it's possible from the above pics, so lets get it done across the board and simplify and improvethe player's control a bit.[:)]