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All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:20 am
by fbastos
... several of them were large liners and passenger ships, in the 30,000 ton range (or more)...
... costing hundreds of millions of dollars, with a crew of a few couple hundred (or more)...
... all treated very carefully by their countries during the war; not many were lost (except for Japan)...
Yet we just bunch them together with third-rate AKs and give them grunt work.
I just took one of them Large AP at random... Moreton Bay, in the picture below. You can see that this is a big ship.
Something's wrong here; at least, their victory values should be much much greater.
F.
PS: Yeah, I know, tonnage of these civillian ships is completely different than of military ships (the Queen Mary once got a couple thousand tons more just by putting a roof on some area), but hey, these are still big ships.

RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:31 am
by Tankerace
Umm a passenger liner, at least at that time didn't cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Do you know how much the USS Salt Lake City (CA-25) Cost without guns? 26 million bucks. That's right, a lot less than a modern F-16. $26,000,000. Of course, that was in 1920's money, but still.
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:32 am
by pasternakski
Ain't no ship military or civilian in WWII that cost anything near "hundreds of millions of dollars." VPs are relative to worth in the war effort and difficulty to replace, not raw translation into cost to build.
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:40 am
by fbastos
I'm talking today's money... hard to keep perspective if you take WW2 money, with a Sherman costing like $50,000 or so (or perhaps less, I wouldn't be surprised).
I think a medium-sized liner goes for say $100 million today, and a large one for $300 million or so.
F.
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:46 am
by Oznoyng
I am turning into a dirty old man. I find myself wanting Platoonist to animate fbastos' avatar to have the blonde disrobe...
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:58 am
by fbastos
Make it two.. [:D]
F.
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:02 am
by Tankerace
Ugg.... 3 [:D]
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:05 am
by Ron Saueracker
Would be cool to have some of the larger liners unique from the masses. Sounds like an editor project. Ships can carry too much to me now though, so not having them could be seen as a compromise. Like what small AK can carry 48 B-17s or 72 P-40s?
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:10 am
by Tankerace
Course you cry if the same AK eats a Long Lance.... sudden;y the Japanese CO gets to paint lots of airplanes on his boat's conning tower.
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:16 am
by Bosun
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:23 am
by Onime No Kyo
ORIGINAL: fbastos
Make it two.. [:D]
F.
Speaking of avatars. You can get rid of the "Patch Now" smilie, FB. Or are you keeping it around until 1.4? [:)]
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:40 am
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: Tankerace
Course you cry if the same AK eats a Long Lance.... sudden;y the Japanese CO gets to paint lots of airplanes on his boat's conning tower.
[:D]I never do put all my eggs in one basket but hey!
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:10 am
by LargeSlowTarget
How about a large liner full of disrobed blondes?[:D]
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:25 am
by fbastos
How about a large liner full of disrobed blondes?
All of them are brunettes, LST!! [;)]
F.
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:33 am
by steveh11Matrix
If we're not careful we might have to make this forum 18+ rated... [;)]
What we need are HOSPITAL SHIPS!
[:D]
Steve.
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:55 am
by LargeSlowTarget
ORIGINAL: fbastos
All of them are brunettes, LST!! [;)]
F.
Even so - away boarding party! [:D]
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:00 pm
by Ron Saueracker
ORIGINAL: fbastos
How about a large liner full of disrobed blondes?
All of them are brunettes, LST!! [;)]
F.
Yep. Gotta admit, I'm a brunette man. Chestnut, flash of red,mmmmmm


RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:26 pm
by Nikademus
Victory value is determined by the ship's Durability rating
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:36 pm
by Buck Beach
I know they make different flavors of ice cream for people with different tastes. For my part, I like the canoe full of those lovlies that you have on your posts. That's what I call eye candy.
RE: All these APs...
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:49 pm
by strawbuk
ORIGINAL: Nikademus
Victory value is determined by the ship's Durability rating
Give up Nik this thread has goooooonne...