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been playing for a few months and few nights ago had fun trying to make some titans as light as i could and i made sort of like 2 small classes smaller then recon and kept the tons from going over what i was targeting the first was to make a titan no bigger then 25tons then my 2nd was to make it no bigger then 16 tons

Titan Name: Poor-mans-mechA Close Combat Recon Titan
Chassis: Cyber C-R1 Design: christian
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Weight: 25.0t (40t maximum) Height : 7 [meter]
Bmt : 17 (70 kph) Reduce Heat: -2.07C/sec.
No Jump Ports Cost : 52850($)


Equipment:
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Component/Type/Location

Engine : Morola M1 [Engine 1] [CT ]
HeatReg.: Mechlarren [Heat 2]
LifeSup.: Livotto [Life 1] [Head]
Computer: Baravia [Comp. 1] [CT ]


Weapons:
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Location/Weapon/Ammunition/Slots

[RA ] SMALL LASER
[LA ] SMALL LASER
[LT ] MEDIUM LASER


Armor:
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Loc/Internal/Armor/Status/Points/mm

[Head] (09) Millenia HMAX 010 [020mm]
[RT ] (11) Millenia 010 [020mm]
[CT ] (15) Millenia 012 [025mm]
[CBT ] (09) Millenia 005 [011mm]
[LT ] (11) Millenia 010 [020mm]
[RA ] (13) Millenia 010 [020mm]
[LA ] (13) Millenia 010 [020mm]
[LowT] (11) Millenia 010 [020mm]
[RL ] (13) Millenia 010 [020mm]
[LL ] (13) Millenia 010 [020mm]

Armor Index: 8.59 [Total APts/T]
Internal: 118 [APts]
External: 097 [APts] Max:[030mm]
Total Armor: 215 [APts]


JOCK requirements:
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Piloting: Recon Titan
Weapons : Energy
Warfare :
Skills : Medic

this titan was the first one


Titan Name: Honda Short Range Recon Titan
Chassis: Cyber C-R1 Design: christian
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Weight: 16.0t (40t maximum) Height : 7 [meter]
Bmt : 16 (75 kph) Reduce Heat: -1.35C/sec.
No Jump Ports Cost : 31540($)


Equipment:
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Component/Type/Location

Engine : Morol
a M1 [Engine 1] [CT ]
HeatReg.: Hudsonite [Heat 1]
LifeSup.: Livotto [Life 1] [Head]
Computer: Baravia [Comp. 1] [RT ]


Weapons:
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Location/Weapon/Ammunition/Slots

[LA ] PULSE LASER


Armor:
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Loc/Internal/Armor/Status/Points/mm

[Head] (09) Vicenium 002 [004mm]
[RT ] (11) Vicenium 002 [004mm]
[CT ] (15) Vicenium 002 [004mm]
[CBT ] (09) Vicenium 000 [001mm]
[LT ] (11) Vicenium 002 [004mm]
[RA ] (13) Vicenium 002 [004mm]
[LA ] (13) Vicenium 002 [004mm]
[LowT] (11) Vicenium 002 [004mm]
[RL ] (13) Vicenium 002 [004mm]
[LL ] (13) Vicenium 002 [004mm]

Armor Index: 8.49 [Total APts/T]
Internal: 118 [APts]
External: 018 [APts] Max:[030mm]
Total Armor: 136 [APts]


JOCK requirements:
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Piloting: Recon Titan
Weapons : Energy
Warfare :
Skills : Medic

a very basic almost no armor on the outside

i dont think il ever use these titans for my squad these titans are best used by the AI to make up some small ton

The 1st version of the Pest was underweight and had precisely this objective, to fill gaps. They'll probably show up a lot though.

Millenia? You are trying to make a Titan as light as possible, and you are using Millenia therefore? If you forgot about it (what i don't think) : Millenia is the heaviest armor. So why Millenia?

when i was doing this one my first 25 ton i tryed to see not only how light i could get it but cheap after i saw what it costs i did not bother putting it on the other titans

just a simple forget to change the armor[:o]

rename it to dullboy

Titan Name: Dullboy Close Combat Recon Titan
Chassis: Cyber C-R1 Design: christian
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Weight: 25.0t (40t maximum) Height : 7 [meter]
Bmt : 17 (70 kph) Reduce Heat: -1.62C/sec.
No Jump Ports Cost : 59784($)


Equipment:
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Component/Type/Location

Engine : Morola M1 [Engine 1] [CT ]
HeatReg.: Mechlarren [Heat 2]
LifeSup.: Livotto [Life 1] [Head]
Computer: Baravia [Comp. 1] [CT ]


Weapons:
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Location/Weapon/Ammunition/Slots

[RA ] SMALL LASER
[LA ] SMALL LASER
[LT ] MEDIUM LASER


Armor:
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Loc/Internal/Armor/Status/Points/mm

[Head] (09) Dullaroy HMAX 013 [020mm]
[RT ] (11) Vicenium 014 [024mm]
[CT ] (15) Vicenium 014 [024mm]
[CBT ] (09) Vicenium 009 [016mm]
[LT ] (11) Vicenium 014 [024mm]
[RA ] (13) Vicenium 014 [024mm]
[LA ] (13) Vicenium 014 [024mm]
[LowT] (11) Vicenium 014 [024mm]
[RL ] (13) Vicenium 010 [017mm]
[LL ] (13) Vicenium 010 [017mm]

Armor Index: 9.76 [Total APts/T]
Internal: 118 [APts]
External: 126 [APts] Max:[030mm]
Total Armor: 244 [APts]


JOCK requirements:
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Piloting: Recon Titan
Weapons : Energy
Warfare :
Skills : Medic

some thing that was bothering me when iv been playing with the Honda as Public to the AI is that il do a solo 70ton pilot and i end up facing a 70ton and a Honda tho its great fun to kill the small thing[:D] i have it on even and why is the AI geting to go over the 16tons for a 2nd titan?

Its because the routine allocating weight to the enemy team is using a +- 20t modifier to allow greater variance in choosing weight classes. 20t was ok as 40t was the minimum for any titan before gamers invented lighter ones like you did.

You should have kept the legs with Millenia, for the higher heat dissipation. Heat is a problem.
You can remove 1mm in the CBT and the HD, with no AP loss. The legs are underarmored, and since the ML is in the LT, if you lose a leg you lose your best weapon.