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Just a wild guess, but it looks like it could be the interior of a He 111.

ORIGINAL: RevRick

Just a wild guess, but it looks like it could be the interior of a He 111.

Doesn't look like He111. It is some kind of patrol aircraft.

ORIGINAL: RevRick

Just a wild guess, but it looks like it could be the interior of a He 111.

Naa - the He111 had a fully glazed nose with room for pilot and co-pilot to sit side by side.

These guys are all rugged up - North Atlantic patrols maybe? I'll go for a Sunderland Flying Boat on U-Boat patrol.

They look like Jerries to me. Maybe a Blohm and Voss flying boat jobbie.

A Condor?

I'ld have to say flying boat or patrol plane. The picture showing the cockpit shows at least 3 sets of identical dials so I assume those are engine gauges. My guess is a 4-engine patrol aircraft. Cockpit is set up weird with control wheel behind the (Flight engineer?). I don't think the leather helmet is U.S. style.

Best guess.. Sunderland???

Chez

I'd say at least six crewmembers - five shown in the pic plus the one behind the steering wheel in the top left photo - could be a Lanc, a Cat or a Sunderland. Maybe even a P.108B - to me a few guys look Italian.

Double post - sorry.

hmm, no I agree, no He111. 2.nd pic ( below ) looks strange. the man is haveing a gun and the ammo....weired. Italians had a medium bomber...LB 20 or what ever....cannot remeber them. ?

damn. this one is difficult. Where is my jane's aircraft of ww2 when I need it [:@]

They do look much more Italian than German, have to wait till I get home from work to check a book for a/c ID......nice pic for #300 Brady!

Lockheed Hudson

the cockpit windows look to slim for a pilot and co-pilot to sit side by side. so, a Stirling ???

Very strange, indeed. Noticed the crewman behind the radioman. He has some kind of steering wheel in his hands, standing under kind of top turret without guns. Seems to me like some kind of steering device for automatic gun turrets. The italians had a 4 eng. Bomber that had automatic turrets behind the inner engines... As far as I can remember that bomber also had those sideward mounted machineguns.

you mean the piaggo P.108 ?

thats it, i guess
http://www.comandosupremo.com/P108.html

Definitely one of the more difficult A/C ID's posted by Brady.

I don't think it's a Piaggio P.108B. The canopy doesn't appear to have the right number of segments. Also the P.108B had offset dorsal aiming windows for it's remote MG turrets. This appears to have only a single dorsal opening.

Another clue is in the cockpit photo. The three large "dials" at the bottom of the front panel are magneto switches (I believe). Certainly a fourth could be obscured by the pilot. But it could also just be the three i.e. a trimotor.

So given everything I'll say a CANT Z-506 "Airone".

PBYPilot

Looks like a copilot sits behind the pilot in this plane. Plane has a top gunner, and at least one side gunner. Gives me the impression of a long, narrow naval patrol plane. The gun mounted in the side gunner's position should give nationality, for those of you who are "small arms" experts. Since this is a special edition, I'm gonna guess it's something we don't see in WiTP. Good puzzler, Brady!

Hmm...the cockpit window scheme looks like a Sunderland...tall rectangles on the bottom..horizontal rectangles in the middle and sloping glass on top.



The guy standing up has some kind of wheel..perhaps to turn a radio direction finder antenna..or even a directional radar antenna. This goes along with the two guys at the avionics panels. At least one Sunderland model had a radio direction finder.

The waist gunner looks like he has a 50 cal. (look at the size of the ammo in the belt). There is clearly another ammo belt and shell ejection hose on the other side..so these look like paired 50 cal waist guns..(also on the Sunderland)


On the other hand, there is something about the pilot's helmet and even the superb, high gloss paint job and meticulous electrical connectors on the avions equipment that looks German. The Dutch did fly Dorniers in the Pacific but I cant find any German flying boats with that cockpit window scheme.

As previously stated, there are at least 3 engines. Tough one...but so far every quiz has related to the Pacific. Were there any lend-lease Sunderlands sent to the SU?

Look at the cockpit windows and note that the standing crewman has his head in a plexiglass bubble (or at least some kind of tranparant covered opening)...then look at the dorsal plexiglass bubble on the Sunderland just forward of the radio direction finder antenna.

Come to think of it, the waist gunner looks like Vladi Divac from when he played on the Lakers. Maybe this is a Serbian crew.