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A simple question....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:11 am
by Rohna
In the ground combat "animation" there are numbers next to each units icon. What do they mean?

Example: 56th Mixed Bgd:87

Thanks

RE: A simple question....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:24 am
by Tankerace
I think (not 100%) that this is the units assault value.

RE: A simple question....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:48 pm
by mc3744
ORIGINAL: Tankerace

I think (not 100%) that this is the units assault value.

I'm almost sure too.
And the changes reflect the effect of enemy attacks and bombing.

RE: A simple question....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:00 pm
by Mr.Frag
Correct, they are the *effective* assault values, you will see the numbers change as the combat runs and the effects for the various modifiers are felt.

RE: A simple question....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:51 pm
by mc3744
ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Correct

I'm sooo coooool [:D][:D]

RE: A simple question....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:58 pm
by tsimmonds
Actually I'm pretty sure this isn't the assault value. For example, I recently concluded 6 weeks' fighting in Manila with 25 attacking LCUs vs 34 defending; the total of all my units' basic assault value was usually in the range of 1000-1500, with the adjusted value ranging from 800-3000; if I had gone through and added up all the numbers on the ground combat "animation", that total would have been in the 5000-7500 range. I think these numbers represent the units' fire combat values. You'll notice that the second time through, the values for many of the LCUs increase significantly. I believe that the lower value is the units' fire value for bombardment, while the higher one is its direct fire value (used only by units that are assaulting or being assaulted).

As always, I could be wrong; this is based solely on observation and not on any special insight into the mechanics.

RE: A simple question....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:14 pm
by Mr.Frag
Don't forget all them tasty modifiers, you can pretty much triple the basic value through use of prep, hq, leader, etc

RE: A simple question....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:35 pm
by tsimmonds
So Frag: do you know what those numbers in the ground combat "animation" are? And please, don't just say:
yes[:D]
[;)]

Edit: oops, never mind, missed your earlier post.

RE: A simple question....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:20 pm
by scout1
Correct, they are the *effective* assault values, you will see the numbers change as the combat runs and the effects for the various modifiers are felt.

Frag,

How about these modified numbers show up on some report (like the combat report). If they show up during the combat reply, both sides can see'em (if you watch this, which I don't). I should however, have access to this elsewhere. Pretty please ...[&o]

RE: A simple question....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:25 pm
by tsimmonds
ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Correct, they are the *effective* assault values, you will see the numbers change as the combat runs and the effects for the various modifiers are felt.
In the big combats that I have been watching, neither my raw assault value nor my final assault value have been anywhere near as much as the total of all of the values that appear on the screen. The adjusted assault value usually has been about 20% of the total.

RE: A simple question....

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:37 pm
by Mr.Frag
Just a simple shock attack will double them with nothing else going on.