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I am going to make every effort to buy this title at the Retail level - for good reason!

Mostly it will help Matrix make a splash at the Retail level - something that can only help Matrix and thus help us Wargamers have more games to look forward to from Matrix for years ...

Also, you get a printed manual ...

EB & Etc. - here I come

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Since Matrix makes a better margin on digital download I plan to buy the game that way. Why give the middle man all the money? I did consider buying it retail for the manual.

I do wonder, if you buy the game retail will it require you to insert the CD into the drive to play?

In the end, we don't really care how you buy it. We're just happy if you buy it somehow. No, the CD version will not require the CD to be in the drive.

Good point about the "margins" - I do like the "instant gratification" of DD too

So many games - so little time ...

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ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

In the end, we don't really care how you buy it. We're just happy if you buy it somehow. No, the CD version will not require the CD to be in the drive.

Glad to here you dont need the CD in the drive, that would just of been a pain in the ass... I will definantly buy it retail mainly for the manual, but here is hoping that it has good sales which would lead retailors into thinking that the wargaming market is returning thus making more choices in the future

If Matrixgames will pay for me a cable connection for a month, I'll gladly buy the direct download as well as the boxed version. How's that Matrixgames?

OK…I’ll probably get flamed for this one, so I’ll hide it in this thread. I’m assuming that the WAW is going to cost the same amount for DD and retail. My question is why?

BTW... I’ll probably get this one at retail for the manual, unless DD is cheaper. I see no reason not to. And most likely this will be a game in which you’ll need a manual in your hands while playing it anyways. Also I think Matrix is doing just fine. As I'm now starting to see others going to digital download.

In economics, its called "opportunity cost." How much are you willing to pay for something - depending on the circumstances. For some, the amount for DD is just fine, while others will find the need to purchase it from a store.

ORIGINAL: GreenDestiny

OK…I’ll probably get flamed for this one, so I’ll hide it in this thread. I’m assuming that the WAW is going to cost the same amount for DD and retail. My question is why?

Possible answers:

• Matrix can't/won't undercut their retail channel for obvious reasons
• Target pricing: you pay as much as we think you can afford
• Value pricing: you pay as much as we think you value the product
• The retail channel is not available to you so you have no choice (eg. uncovered countries)

In any case, if it's a good game, the sale is all that matters. We should trust that Matrix has done their best to maximize the revenue inflows with their pricing.

/coralsaw

Here, in Czech Rep., it will be no retail version....my only choice is DD [8D]

To be clear: there will be European retail distribution (according to the various sticky posts on this forum). How long that delay will be is not yet known.

[8D]As a loyal Matrix supporter i am beginning to understand the frustration concerning WAW release which brings up the question in my mind: Reasons "NOT" to buy retail. As many of you know i am not new here and keep very(too much) up to date with Matrix products in development. We are all familiar with the incorrect release dates on every site carrying the game and i know that it's a possibility that they keep advancing the date a little at a time to keep potential sales interest, but yesterday i had an experience that shed a little light on this from the outsiders point of view.
I went to the mall to do some spring break shopping for the kids and decided to stop by EB to say hello (been awhile) and i inquired about what new releases for PC and XBOX that had come in their morning shipment. After finding some cool products to keep us[;)] entertained for the week off i inquired about WAW as i played dumb, it turns out that the shipment didn't make it but it will be in tommorow(today)...hmmm...should i go back to the mall today and get "my" copy before anyone else?[8|] If i didn't know what i know and have my skewed vision of our educationally deprived society i would be pretty pissed when i went there today to find out "it's, ummm, not in the system". An outsider is going to want to vent his frustrations at someone and from my experience it is always easier for the people at the point of sale to blame the developer/distributor[;)].
Maybe this is a point to discuss at the next retail sales marketing conference, just my 2 cents.

I wont go for a european retail version. reason's simple : I dont want to wait till it is translated in german. I dont need a localized version. However, I am a fan of printed manuals.

Maybe this is a point to discuss at the next retail sales marketing conference, just my 2 cents.

See the Gamespy article link it he "I told you so" thread...Many think retail is seriously broken in general.

The question is do you therefore ignore it, or "pulse" it every so often and see if an occasional presence there can generate some buzz...

http://www.gamespy.com/articles/596/596 ... ?fromint=1

The problem is an industry wide one, that is MUCH more serious for producers of 6M$ X-box titles. We have to grin and bear it, and be glad we can 'Visit, but don't have to live there"...

The one thing about direct sales, you guys still have to remember, the whole world doesn't own a computer or have an internet connection, but, most every city has a Walmarts. Oh and I forgot, the internet connection is not totally "broadband" either.

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

The one thing about direct sales, you guys still have to remember, the whole world doesn't own a computer or have an internet connection, but, most every city has a Walmarts.

Even with a Wal-Mart in their city, it might be kind of difficult to play a computer game without a computer.

Sorry I had to say it. [:D]

Even with a Wal-Mart in their city, it might be kind of difficult to play a computer game without a computer.

Very profound, wish I had thought of that. I'm going to buy it retail though just to support retail since that is "my preferred" method of purchase of games. I like to hold the box, and "think about my purchase". Online buying is so unpersonal. I've spent hours sometimes talking to the guys at EB games, buying online is a cold and silent experience.
Buying online feels like the company is saying to me, "just buy the damn game, we have no time for idle chat".

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

I'm going to buy it retail though just to support retail since that is "my preferred" method of purchase of games. I like to hold the box, and "think about my purchase". Online buying is so unpersonal. I've spent hours sometimes talking to the guys at EB games, buying online is a cold and silent experience.
Buying online feels like the company is saying to me, "just buy the damn game, we have no time for idle chat".

Having done the local Best Buy/EB Games/CompUSA/etc. etc. bit in my area many a time I can say safely I'll be ordering this one online through an online retailer and having it delivered like I do with 99% of the games I buy.

This suits me fine as I'm more in a store to buy than to chat, but that's just me.

This suits me fine as I'm more in a store to buy than to chat, but that's just me.

See that's another of my points, computers are making some people more and more "anti-social", I can only imagine what the world will be like in another 100 years, I guess most people won't step out of their cubicles, there will be robots to do all the work and no need for social interaction with monitors and electronic devices that will allow people to get all the physical activity they need right in front of the computer. Seems like I seen a movie like that once, just a bunch of heads in boxes.

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

See that's another of my points, computers are making some people more and more "anti-social", I can only imagine what the world will be like in another 100 years, I guess most people won't step out of their cubicles, there will be robots to do all the work and no need for social interaction with monitors and electronic devices that will allow people to get all the physical activity they need right in front of the computer. Seems like I seen a movie like that once, just a bunch of heads in boxes.

I would like to have a grocery store, barber shop, etc. etc. where you know the people and can sit down and talk. Don't have that luxury but...

In general when I go to a store like EB Games, Walmart, CompUSA; one of the super huge retail stores, I want to get in, make my purchase and get out. It's not, in my view, a social environment like Floyd the local Barber, if you know what I mean.