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Looking for saves with aircraft production vanishing.

The saves I have have not been of use, send more with as much info as to what is going on.

Not to put pressure on you or anything, but it is holding up the patch! [:'(]

Ja! What he said! You guys get on the ball!

Is there any way we could try to reproduce this is ourselves by starting up the 1943 or 1944 campaign scenario or something?

I'm sure that if Frag knew how to reproduce the problem he wouldn't be asking for the saves. Then again maybe he just wants more saves to confirm something.

As it were, I'd love to help but haven't come across this issue. At least to my knowledge...

Edit: Bah...spelling...

Is there any way we could try to reproduce this is ourselves by starting up the 1943 or 1944 campaign scenario or something?

If I could answer that, I wouldn't be asking for saves. Mike couldn't find it in the ones submitted. If Mike can't find, Mike can't fix.

Yeah, I figured as much, Frag. Dang.

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Is there any way we could try to reproduce this is ourselves by starting up the 1943 or 1944 campaign scenario or something?

If I could answer that, I wouldn't be asking for saves. Mike couldn't find it in the ones submitted. If Mike can't find, Mike can't fix.

I will ramp up upproduction and get a turn where I lose 21 and sent tit to you. I can not say when it will happen as it is random. Is this Ok.

I can provide a save where Japan is loosing 1 Glen every day.
It is after some 47 of them have been lost, pool is 0 and production stopped. It can be restarted and they will continue to vanish...
If this is what you need I'll send it.

Yep

I've got a game against the AI in which there are hundreds of zeroes in the 'used' pool that I haven't seen the trace of. Do you think it would be useful?

Please read carefully and comment on whether your plane losses happen to fit the profile:

"Ships/CV's that have been sunk are still drawing replacements."

Does anyone have a scenario where this is *not* the case? So far, this looks to be it. Looking for a situation where this is *not* the case if any can be found.

One bug has been found for the above situation, want to be sure there is not another hiding so keep digging into your game looking for it.

On a side note, as Mike has been digging through the saves, he has commented on a lot of them being no issue due to aircraft simply not being produced. It would seem a lot of folks are hung up on the reported number showing but do not actually check that their factories are in a position to produce aircraft.

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Please read carefully and comment on whether your plane losses happen to fit the profile:

"Ships/CV's that have been sunk are still drawing replacements."

Does anyone have a scenario where this is *not* the case? So far, this looks to be it. Looking for a situation where this is *not* the case if any can be found.

One bug has been found for the above situation, want to be sure there is not another hiding so keep digging into your game looking for it.

On a side note, as Mike has been digging through the saves, he has commented on a lot of them being no issue due to aircraft simply not being produced. It would seem a lot of folks are hung up on the reported number showing but do not actually check that their factories are in a position to produce aircraft.

So the patch is postponed ? Or will be downloadable this week ?

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Harrer

Patch is posponed until this is fixed, there is obviously no point putting it out with plane eating code.

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Patch is posponed until this is fixed, there is obviously no point putting it out with plane eating code.

[:D][:D]

Please to all of you guys, send him saves so that I can begin my pbem [&o][&o]

Harrer

Seems that you guys have found the varmint!

What Frag describes sure sounds like it fits the problem. It would explain why people see Zekes and Glens disappear, and why we don't hear about such problems with Oscars or Tonys. Those pesky shipboard aircraft keep drawing replacements.

I sure hope that's it. In any case, I for one am willing to wait until this bug is definitively stomped.

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Please read carefully and comment on whether your plane losses happen to fit the profile:

"Ships/CV's that have been sunk are still drawing replacements."

Does anyone have a scenario where this is *not* the case? So far, this looks to be it. Looking for a situation where this is *not* the case if any can be found.

One bug has been found for the above situation, want to be sure there is not another hiding so keep digging into your game looking for it.

On a side note, as Mike has been digging through the saves, he has commented on a lot of them being no issue due to aircraft simply not being produced. It would seem a lot of folks are hung up on the reported number showing but do not actually check that their factories are in a position to produce aircraft.

So what you are saying is that the used number from the production page is not right, or am I missing something.

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

"Ships/CV's that have been sunk are still drawing replacements."

Does anyone have a scenario where this is *not* the case?

I had a problem with Ki-61 Tony, lost lots of them, and I am 100% certain of it, as I had only one Tony squadron on a whole map at that time. It was full of planes (36), and used plane number was 43, and kept rising. They never flew any mission before that, never transfered from base to base, they had stand down orders, and had no combat nor ops losses. All I did with them was upgrading them from Nates, and dividing them in separate Chutais in order to speed up repair. It is one of the two nate squadrons that arrive in Manchuria after few months, 68th or 78th.
That is the same save I've sent already, one with Glen problem. Frag, maybe you can stand down all planes on map, and put those two squadrons to accept replacements, stop all production and see if they will continue to draw Tonies. Try dividing them into A/B/C chutais as I did that too.
As it is PBEM I cannot do it myslf to test it.
Hope this helps.

P.S. Can you please look at the save I've sent and tell me how to get rid of those ghost squadrons on Kaga, Soryu and Hiryu (and one othe CVL, can't remember the name at the moment)? I've tried everything, they cannot be transfered to land, only to other CV, but next turn they return to their original CV. They were created one turn after I manually upgraded squadrons from A6M2 to A6M3a. Some were onboard, some were in the port where CV was at the time of upgrade. So far the only way to avoid that was to transfer whole squadron to port, put it on stand down for two or more turns and then upgrade manually. If I don't wait, or wait only 1 turn ghost squadron appears.

Would an air unit destroyed while be transported on an AK also continue to draw replacements?

Hello...

With the new rule, any air group that starts the game on a ship will not draw replacements, if that ship has been sunk. This does not apply to American ships that are replaced.

Bye...

Michael Wood

ORIGINAL: treespider

Would an air unit destroyed while be transported on an AK also continue to draw replacements?