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I don't know how to make the difference betwen MMG's and HMG's. What's the rule that mark the difference ? For LMG's is clear, but I want help for MMG's/HMG's.
Thanks.

Leo.

An MG mounted on a tripod, with more ammunition and barrels (for air-cooled weapons) than an equivalent LMG, and a larger crew for sustained fire would be considered "medium". Most water-cooled weapons fall under this category.
An MG with a caliber larger than "normal" small-arms ammunition (usually around .30"/7.62mm in WW2), large crew, designed for use in fixed positions etc could be considered "HMG". Note the German General Purpose MGs weren't REALLY "HMGs" by the definition of most other armies. Some gamesystems rationalized the designation "HMG" for German weapons by considering them to have more quick-change barrels/ammunition than the "medium" weapon.

Originally posted by Grumble:
An MG mounted on a tripod, with more ammunition and barrels (for air-cooled weapons) than an equivalent LMG, and a larger crew for sustained fire would be considered "medium". Most water-cooled weapons fall under this category.
An MG with a caliber larger than "normal" small-arms ammunition (usually around .30"/7.62mm in WW2), large crew, designed for use in fixed positions etc could be considered "HMG". Note the German General Purpose MGs weren't REALLY "HMGs" by the definition of most other armies. Some gamesystems rationalized the designation "HMG" for German weapons by considering them to have more quick-change barrels/ammunition than the "medium" weapon.

O.K.
Now, in which category fall the following:

Name: Z.B. 53 Contry: Czechoslovakia Model: 1937 Caliber: 7.92 Length: 1104 mm Weight: 21.291 kg Nr. of bullets: 100|200 Initial speed: 792 m/s Rate of fire: 500-700 bullets/min Range: 2500 m ?

With mention that it was aircooled/barrel changing.

Leo

Originally posted by Gavris Narcis:



O.K.
Now, in which category fall the following:

Name: Z.B. 53 Contry: Czechoslovakia Model: 1937 Caliber: 7.92 Length: 1104 mm Weight: 21.291 kg Nr. of bullets: 100|200 Initial speed: 792 m/s Rate of fire: 500-700 bullets/min Range: 2500 m ?

With mention that it was aircooled/barrel changing.

Leo

It's a MMG.

...if not mounted on a tripod with optics and placed in a somewhat fortified position.. then at least I could agree w/ HMG.

...I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it is probably an HMG. The weight of the beast is the main tip-off here. Probably used in fixed emplacements mostly.. a designation of MMG would tend to imply something a tad lighter than 21kg, but perhaps I'm wrong I don't have THAT much specific knowledge in this area and maybe I'm overestimating how heavy 21kg would be..

Well, 21 Kg are nearly 47 lbs. Add the ammunition + barrels + tripod...

This is quite heavy for a "mobile" weapon.


Salut,

Originally posted by Sinner from the Prairy:
Well, 21 Kg are nearly 47 lbs. Add the ammunition + barrels + tripod...

This is quite heavy for a "mobile" weapon.


Salut,

Hello,

The MG3 LMG (more or less a direct copy of the MG42) weighs 16kg without spare barrel and ammunition. So I would label it a MMG and leave the HMG designation to heavy calibre (13mm, 12.7mm and above) MG's and to watercooled MG's (such as the Vickers) with high sustained rates of fire.

Regards,

Lars

Yeah, I thought I might have overestimated the heaviness of 21kg.. having so far not had much experience handling real weapons, my knowledge is a bit unreliable with such details. This will probably change, though, when I join the National Guard this fall.

You guys may wish to check out the huge Machine Gun debate over on the OOB Forum.