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If anyone has any changes for the CHS, please get them to me as soon as possible. An update process will begin as soon as V1.5 is released and I would appreciate it if all OOB changes could be in by the time it is released. Artwork changes can come in a little later.

Planned update process is:

1. Merge V1.5 changes into CHS.
2. Make CHS specific updates (see current list below).
3. Make changes for ship re-spawn problem.
4. Rework Chinese Air Force (might slip into next update)

Thanks

Don

I have look to you list of changes. And I have see that you have made a type error by a New Dutch unit.

You have used the word Mariners. The Dutch word for Marines is Mariniers. The Dutch abrev is Marns.

ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym

Don

I have look to you list of changes. And I have see that you have made a type error by a New Dutch unit.

You have used the word Mariners. The Dutch word for Marines is Mariniers. The Dutch abrev is Marns.

Thanks - fixed!

Then another thing about the Mariniers Brigade.
The name of the Commanding Officer is
de Bruyne and his rang was Colonel

ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym

Then another thing about the Mariniers Brigade.
The name of the Commanding Officer is
de Bruyne and his rang was Colonel

Jo

We are currently NOT doing any work on leaders. The leader file is almost full and adding additional leaders has been postponed. Perhaps, at some time in the future, a complete revision of leaders might be done.

I would like to see added to Devices a Sona Dipping Device AN/CTR-1 (1941) upgraded to AN/CRT-4 (1944/45) + a Mad Device

Cobra Aus

ORIGINAL: CobraAus

I would like to see added to Devices a Sona Dipping Device AN/CTR-1 (1941) upgraded to AN/CRT-4 (1944/45) + a Mad Device

Cobra Aus

Sorry Peter, I do not know how to do sonar. As far as I know it can not be done.

Don

ok already have working as surface radar as there is no sub surface Type and using with experimental H02s Choppers which appeared in 1941 in some numbers using sona dipping only and
this working. not useing anything other than AN/CRT-1 device and trying out at Pearl (not Historic - only test ) I am using following values R=10 A=50 E=50 P=250 LC=1 BR=5

the values may need trimming but this is fully Historic for 1941 with the AN/CRT-4 available 1944/195 maybe Ron will have some input but is tied up with ASW variations

Cobra Aus

#152 Beaufighter Mk 21 -- I thought it first flew in May, 1944. I thought Aus squadrons equipped with Beaufighter VIC until then.

if you want them to pad out the Allied ships (respawn problem) I have about 20+ class art done for Russian navy still waiting for Subchasers data

Cobra Aus

Don,
Wouldn't the Jap 35th Bde be at 1/2 strength since it's actually only one regiment of the 18th Division?
bs

Cobra, that data was sent two or three weeks ago. I’ll resend it when I’ll be back home tonight. Sorry, probably my fault.

ORIGINAL: CobraAus

if you want them to pad out the Allied ships (respawn problem) I have about 20+ class art done for Russian navy still waiting for Subchasers data

Cobra Aus

The 35th brigade is at correct strength. 168 squads is one regiment in strength. Plus one AAA battery.

Mike

ORIGINAL: Lemurs!

The 35th brigade is at correct strength. 168 squads is one regiment in strength. Plus one AAA battery.

Mike

168 rifle squads? Are Japanese LCU's even stronger in the CHS than in "vanilla" WITP? A regular Japanese regiment (of a Japanese square division like the 18th Division of which 35th Brigade was part of; Independent and Mixed Brigades were somewhat differently organised) should have 108 rifle squads, strengthened regiments 144 rifle squads (WITP seems to have most (or all?) regiments as strengthened regiments).

The 35th Brigade is strengthend.
And, yes, i did increase regiment squad numbers for both the Allies and Japan.

I did not do this out of any perceived 'problem', I had just been looking at TOEs and felt the Matrix numbers were incorrect.
I counted combat squads that Matrix missed, and counted light mortars and medium MGs as a half squad a piece.
Also, you will notice that virtually every Japanese division and all of the naval landing forces have totally different OOBs now especially in non-squad items.

Mike

Hi, I don't want to butt in but units like the 35th Bde IMO should be left out and the parent unit should be made correct. If the Japanese (or Allied) player wants to split divisions that should be where Bde come from. (unless they are not part of a larger formation)
My choice would be to have all units that are part of larger formations removed from starting OB. Otherwise you end up with them being counted twice. (You have a full strength 18th Div and a full strength 35th Bde)
Since you can't deploy Div A/B/C at start and you can never reform a unit deployed as Bde at start it gives more flexabilty to have the units begin full strength. (choice of location might be tricky) Where units begin split and not all components units are on map have the parent begin below strength. (Like 6th Aussie Div. Only 2 of the 4 Bde arrived Ceylon early in war. While full div went to NG in late 42. I'd have half strength 6th Div arrive Ceylon. It would be up to Allied player if unit grew or not and where growth took place )
Pardon the interuption

ORIGINAL: Lemurs!

The 35th Brigade is strengthend.
And, yes, i did increase regiment squad numbers for both the Allies and Japan.

I did not do this out of any perceived 'problem', I had just been looking at TOEs and felt the Matrix numbers were incorrect.
I counted combat squads that Matrix missed, and counted light mortars and medium MGs as a half squad a piece.
Also, you will notice that virtually every Japanese division and all of the naval landing forces have totally different OOBs now especially in non-squad items.

Mike

Did not want to criticize here. Was only curious because I'm interested in TOEs since old PACWAR. Work with the "Japanese Army Handbook" and other sources (especially Niehorster's orbats) did not bring truly convincing results as sources about Japanese TOE's are quite confusing. Not sure which division (or regiment) truely belonged into the "strengthened" category. This seems to have changed alot during the course of the war (ostensibly the Japanese were quite flexible with this).

Guess that I should download CHS now!

K

Something else that I am thinking about: Should we change the way that the Japanese start, so that they do not invade the Philippines on turn 1 (except Batan Island)? In the same way that Pry did in his latest scenario? I believe that this would be more historic.

Hi, I think Japanese players would be happy if all LCU began unloaded.

Hello Don

A few things I noticed.

1) 70th FS starts the game with P-39s. I think this should be changed to P-36s and upgrade to P-39s, because the squadron was flying P-36s up to embarking on Dec 5, 1941. As you know it was to upgrade to P-40E upon reaching the PI. According to the 70th unit history none of the pilots had ever seen a P-39 until they uncrated them on the beach in Fiji in February 42.

2) The 68th FS enters the game equiped with P-39s. Historically it deployed to the PTO with P-40E.

3) The 11th BS equiped with A-24s[&:]. This unit was part of the 7th BG (Hvy). Along with its sister units the 9th & and 22nd BS it was to be equiped with B-17Es and sent to the PI. However at the outbreak of war there were not enough available and it was instead equiped with LB-30s and deployed along with the other two Squadrons of the group(B-17Es) to the NEIs via the South America/Africa/India ferry route. Curiously in 43 it changed over to B-25s and was re-designated a Medium BS but remained under the 7th Heavy BG organisational umbrella. Perhaps this is why you have them starting out with A-24s. IMHO the 11th LB-30s upgadeing to B-25s is the historical way to go and if they are going to retain SE Asia HQ then they should enter the game peicemeal at Karachi starting in early January.


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