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Hi all,

I think Tristanjohn was the one who pointed out that the Kate's range was drastically reduced in the CHS mod. Let me point out that I haven't actually looked at the Kate's range in the mod, so what I say is based on what I think I've read over the last couple of months.

But, IF the kate's range has indeed been reduced, I think there is something very important to consider. The react ranges of CV task forces are specific to nationality in WITP. Japan's carriers will only react until they are a specific distance from the other CV task force. So, IF the kate's range is reduced in CHS, then you will be breaking one extremely important feature in the game. (Japanese CV TF won't react to striking range of modified Kate)

That being said, IF the kate's range is reduced in the CHS mod, I think you should put it back to the original WITP range. However, if I'm mistaken then please just ignore me. (let me know I'm mistaken.)

bc

I think it's only 1 hex less than it was before. Besides which I believe it has/will be fixed for next release of CHS.

Besides which I believe it has/will be fixed for next release of CHS.

Meaning it will be changed back to five hexes?

ORIGINAL: Captain Cruft

I think it's only 1 hex less than it was before. Besides which I believe it has/will be fixed for next release of CHS.

There is currently no adjustment for the Kate in the Pending Changes list for CHS. Another CHS team member has control over Japanese Aircraft and has given me no such change.

Don

Why was it reduced?

Just curious.

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

ORIGINAL: Captain Cruft

I think it's only 1 hex less than it was before. Besides which I believe it has/will be fixed for next release of CHS.

There is currently no adjustment for the Kate in the Pending Changes list for CHS. Another CHS team member has control over Japanese Aircraft and has given me no such change.

Don

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ChezDaJez,

You are correct, i was having a cranial rectal inversion.
The Dauntless will be at 4/3 range, not 3/2. I was thinking of a system that showed standard/max range and load where our game is max range/standard range.

The Kate info i have does not match yours but it is close, i figured total range after forming up of 490nm. That will give 5/4 range.

Sorry about that, range figures for many aircraft are very hard to find.
The only source i have for the kate list range as 980km.
Now, is that ferry range? With Torpedo? with a 500kg bomb? What?

I looked at similar aircraft and decided that range was with torpedo.

I think this means i made some mistakes in the Alpha ranges.. sigh...

Mike

Tanaka

Thank you - I had not followed this thread. However, I am pristinely ignorant concerning Japanese aircraft and can make no changes unless Mike spells them out for me (using small words).

Don

The above link sends you to the wrong page of that thread. Try this, page 3 toward the bottom: Kate range

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


Tanaka

Thank you - I had not followed this thread. However, I am pristinely ignorant concerning Japanese aircraft and can make no changes unless Mike spells them out for me (using small words).

Don

The problem is very simple to understand. By reducing the range of the Kate, Mike upset the relative balance between the ranges of the Kate and Dauntless bombers. Not good. And until this is rectified the CHS will be virtually unplayable. As it stands the Japanese are screwed.

For all I know it's already been rectified, but I haven't heard that.

ORIGINAL: Tristanjohn

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


Tanaka

Thank you - I had not followed this thread. However, I am pristinely ignorant concerning Japanese aircraft and can make no changes unless Mike spells them out for me (using small words).

Don

The problem is very simple to understand. By reducing the range of the Kate, Mike upset the relative balance between the ranges of the Kate and Dauntless bombers. Not good. And until this is rectified the CHS will be virtually unplayable. As it stands the Japanese are screwed.

For all I know it's already been rectified, but I haven't heard that.

NO changes are in the current pending change list for either the Kate or the Dauntless. If Mike decides to make such changes he will send them to me and I will put them in.

Lemur stated in an earlier post that he was going to rectify this. He was probably waiting for this patch to come out before proceding.

Yea Don, this is going to be changed... I had one air source that listed range as max ferry range and they had high detail on about 2/3rds of the aircraft in the game. My other aircraft were from another source which apparently lists combat range with standard load.

Mind you i did this range work over one weekend so my eyes were bleeding AND i was trying to fix the Fighter bomber problem.

So there are some range screw ups which i am fixing. Sorry guys.
It is much more complicated than it looks because the game does not take load into account.

Mike

So the Kate will return to the ranges in the stock game? I sure hope so.

Yea, the Kates range is in the process of being fixed by Don today or tomorrow.
Round of applause.

Also the range, mnvr etc of the Pete, Dave, Jake & Alf are being fixed.

Mike

That proves how observant I am. With all my bellyaching about the Lancer, I never even noticed Kate had been changed. I fussed and fretted over a minor chinese plane, but didn't notice the plane that sank more ships in my game than any other. [:D]

Part of the reason i changed it is because the Val was a longer ranged aircraft than the Kate but in game they look the same.

so i lowered the Kate 1 hex and thought no one would notice.

Boy was i wrong! Yikes guys, it is back to normal.

In a perfect world we would have WITP with 30 or 45 mile hexes! [:D]

Mike