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Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 2:30 pm
by DamoclesX
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/civ ... slot_click

Oh no, this game, god, civ was the most addictive game I played -EVER- so many nights I would be up till 4am playing totaly having lost track of time.


RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 5:13 pm
by Lucifuge
Wow alot of great changes, religion (holy cities!), unit levels, 'great' people units...man cant wait :) Looks like not making same mistakes as Pirates remake and advancing gameplay to a new level.

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 5:26 pm
by Platoonist
I remember the entire summer of 1996 being a blur of marathon Civilization II sessions. I'd start in the afternoon promising myself only a few turns before I'd get some important and overdue things done.....the next external stimulis I recall after that was sunrise birdsong.

I was never able to warm up to Civilization III as much tho.

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 6:05 pm
by TheHellPatrol
ORIGINAL: Platoonist
I'd start in the afternoon promising myself only a few turns before I'd get some important and overdue things done....
[:D]LOL, and just when i thought i could end it for the night an ex-ally would invade me[;)]...there went another 6 hours[8|]

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 6:14 pm
by Terminus
Well, after Civ3 things can only get BETTER...

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 6:17 pm
by Platoonist
The worst thing for me was having a Wonder just a few turns from completion. Couldn't wait to fire that baby up when the final shield was put in place and see the boost it gave economically or militarily. The game was pure crack from my standpoint. [:D]

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 6:46 pm
by Brady

Ya I played the piss out of that game, seriously adactive, I played a lot of III as well, but I too found it not quiet as good as II, I will defanatly Buy IV though[:)]

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 9:45 pm
by reg113
I still spend hours playing II. Justa can not get it off my hard drive.

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 10:33 pm
by EricGuitarJames
ORIGINAL: reg113

I still spend hours playing II. Justa can not get it off my hard drive.

You ain't the only one[:D]

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 12:22 am
by DamoclesX
Civilization was my first introduction to any kind of strategy game, and, well, it was the first game my dad actually liked a lot, we both spend SO many hours on that game.


RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 1:42 am
by Pippin
That god damn Civ strikes again! Some people complain about drugs, I'd say Civ III should be placed on the CONTROLLED software list by governments around the world. Just one game sucks about a day of life out of you, and for what? Just to force you to retry again the next day. I wonder how many lives have been lost, and families torn apart by this substance.

And of course, every time I uninstall it, I pray that I will not pick up the habbit again. But once your in, you are always in. Not many people get out of this trap.



RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 2:55 pm
by ravinhood
You uninstalled it? I never could even get that far. LOL CIV II remains and even CIV III which I will play from time to time because I love the resource features of it and the trading, but, the combat game is rather dull, unlike CIV II where action heats up quickly and continues until I fly away to Alpha Centauri, right after I launch every ICBM I have. ;) lol


Also it doesn't sound impressive when I read they are "dumbing down the AI", that's what made the Civilization games stand out among the rest, the challenge the AI gave on it's most highest difficulties. I'm reading simple AI coming your way, no longer the challenge it once was. It needs cheats, all games need cheats, the AI anyway. Kneeling to the cries of babies who couldn't beat the most difficult level. Another bargain bin game waiting for me on this one.

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 3:37 pm
by Hanal
I was debating with myself whether or not to purchase Supreme Ruler....since both these game require alot of time to grasp and play, I think I'll pass on SR and await the arrival of Civ IV.........

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 3:41 pm
by oi_you_nutter
CIV II was the cause of many a lost day, CIV III still gets played

Alpha Centuri never had the same appeal to me, but the ability to design your own units was a good idea.. I would like to see a little bit of that idea again: choose to trade off one attribute to gain a little advantage in another. speed over armour for ships, aircraft range over bombing ability etc

The Call to Power games (CIV clones) had a longer game period with some futuristic building and units. The fixed length to CIV3 is an annoying restriction that I never liked, there is nothing more frustrating that having your world domination plans running out of time [:@]

Apolyton.net link is a great CIV/CTP site. The source code for CTP2 was released by the developers and is still being developed by fans.


CIV4 will be a must buy for me !

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 4:56 pm
by Pippin
Seems so many people prefer civ II over civ III. If this trend continues, then Civ IV may be a big flop. Though I loved Civ III a lot. I play nothing but Diety level now, and have achieved I think every possible victory there is, except for the one where you get a victory by having a city achieve X amount of culture points. Almost impossible on diety as you need to build almost every wonder there is for that one, and the AI is making what, 400 or 800% more shield production than you are? Not to mention all the other bonuses. The AI is pretty stupid, but those modifiers is what makes it damn tuff!


RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 6:10 pm
by Rik81
What? Just a bunch of younsters here[:D] talking CIV II. What about the game that started it all CIV? For me, the first was the best. Somehow, there just was enough "difference" in moving along to II and then III. Yes, I had them all, including the expansion, even a couple of the "clones" which I likewise didn't like.

So, now CIV IV? Yeah, no doubt I will get it. I hope it can grab me, like I did, and like II seems to have grabbed most of you.

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:20 pm
by Blum
don't remember if a played civ 1 or 2, just scratched it from my HD AFTER destroying the disk.
i did so together with PACWAR, when i found myself playing at work.
had to choose between my job and CIV + PAC.
but god, what i did suffer... those so called tobacco addicted or alcoholics have never felt the pain of quitting CIV and PAC on the same day.

Leon

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 8:33 pm
by ravinhood
I myself would like to see them slow down the time movement from one age to the next, upgrades to military techs came so fast one hardly had time to enjoy a war with legions and phalanx, before muskets were entering the picture. Needs more 5 year turns in the early game I think instead of what is it now in Civ III 50 years? Before I turn around it's 1ad, and I haven't even started on a good war yet. ;)

And yes I played the Mighty Civilization I, the most addicting game of it's time. And the AI was battle hardened and ready to wipe you off the map in a hurry (I even have CIVNET who else has got that one? ;)). Through the years now with CIV III, the AI has gotten lazy, wants to be friendly too much, goes to wars and then makes peace too easily. I want the combat and challenge of the origional back again, with the resources and trading of CIV III. Civ II is sort of the middle of the road of the two, though it lacks the resource trading, the combat game is still as fun as CIV I.

I also don't like the new spying system and stealing technologies of CIV III, the fun of CIV II was sending spies out and doing it yourself, not paying for it only to have 10 attempts in a row yield nothing but a loss of gold. CIV II rules, CIV III is merely ok.

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:33 pm
by ioticus
I agree with Ravinhood. Strategy games may be getting prettier but they are losing their intelligence, especially where the AI is concerned. The new breed of computer game is WOW! 3D! but so shallow underneath.

RE: Oh Noes!! Civ 4!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 1:13 am
by pasternakski
After browsing through the screenies, this one looks like a definite pass for me. CivIII was bad enough with the farmland mineshafts, swirling rollercoaster railroads, Sid Meier lookalike advisors and all that, but now we're going to get an impossibly cluttered landscape where you can't even see the cities under the three-mile-high ghetto gang combat units...

"Jewish cathedral"? Ah hah.

No, thanks. Civ I was great, Civ II was just enough better to justify moving up to it, but that's the end for me until someone reaches back to the good old days, grabs what was charmin' and cookin' about it (remember the CivI caravans?) and takes it in that direction instead of whatever this is.