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OOB Unit Class question

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:30 pm
by omegaall
In the current OOBs there appear to be several classs that are could be inter related. These being :

#76 - Team
#84 - Pack Animal

Is there a real differece in these 2 classes eg cross country movement etc?

To me #76 - Team seems closer to the unit class
#83 - Gun Team or used as some form of "horse tractor"




RE: OOB Unit Class question

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:09 pm
by RockinHarry
According to game manual:

Q. What are gun teams and pack mules used for?
A. Gun teams haul guns. So do pack mules. More realistic than tons of trucks
and half-tracks, at least for the Axis side and the minors...and Russia.

RE class #76 "team" would be interesting to know..indeed! checked a couple of OOB´s but can´t find it used anywhere![X(]

Stuart have an idea?[&:]

RE: OOB Unit Class question

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:47 pm
by omegaall
In the standard OOB files for SPWAW 8.3 theer are 4 units which are class 76, "Team".

These being:
OOB 72 Italy - Unit #196 - Slitte/Sledge
OOB 76 France - Unit #222 - Pack Mules
OOB 91 Free France - Unit #221 - Pack Camels
OOB 91 Free France - Unit #222 - Pack Mules

So here is a case of pack animals being "Teams" [&:]

RE: OOB Unit Class question

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:38 pm
by Major Destruction
It is an alternative animal class

A rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.

RE: OOB Unit Class question

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:10 am
by Alby
I think Flashfyre used the Team class for horses, which can carry infrantry, then "dismount" them, in his USA oob mod.


RE: OOB Unit Class question

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:05 pm
by omegaall
Ok lest put this all into some perspective.

Ther are many various calsses described, by various sources " as a version" of some other class.
The questuion I posted here is just a simple example of this, what seems to be implied " alternate" option".

What I would really like is some MG definative OOB designer to outline what if any are the operational differences between these "optional but the same" classes.

Is a command tank really the same as a main battle tank ??

Are second line infantry really different to normal infantry ???

Again this is not from our/the usesrs perspective BUT from the Game mechanics. A totally different thing!

RE: OOB Unit Class question

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:49 pm
by Mike Wood
Hello...

All same to the program. Second line infantry or elite infantry, main battle tank or command tank. Added these distinctions and radio codes to editor to allow third party orders of battle authors to more easily create the units they chose. The movement and combat routines see no distinction.

Hope this Helps...

Michael Wood
ORIGINAL: omegaall

Ok lest put this all into some perspective.

Ther are many various calsses described, by various sources " as a version" of some other class.
The questuion I posted here is just a simple example of this, what seems to be implied " alternate" option".

What I would really like is some MG definative OOB designer to outline what if any are the operational differences between these "optional but the same" classes.

Is a command tank really the same as a main battle tank ??

Are second line infantry really different to normal infantry ???

Again this is not from our/the usesrs perspective BUT from the Game mechanics. A totally different thing!

RE: OOB Unit Class question

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:59 pm
by omegaall
Thanks Mike.

Clears up some issues..

RE: OOB Unit Class question

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:08 pm
by RockinHarry
Thanks! Finally learned something new again. ..hm..lets see how I could make use of this "class" for the special units in Norway OOB (..or not).

RE: OOB Unit Class question

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:47 am
by omegaall
Sounds more like I better stop asking questions!!!
ORIGINAL: RockinHarry

Thanks! Finally learned something new again. ..hm..lets see how I could make use of this "class" for the special units in Norway OOB (..or not).

RE: OOB Unit Class question

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:39 pm
by RockinHarry
ORIGINAL: omegaall

Sounds more like I better stop asking questions!!!
ORIGINAL: RockinHarry

Thanks! Finally learned something new again. ..hm..lets see how I could make use of this "class" for the special units in Norway OOB (..or not).

No way! Keep doing![:D]