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Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:44 pm
by Naomi
Crown of Glory is scheduled to come out towards the end of this mth, so will EIA not be available for one, or two, years following the CoG release? Since Matrix may well not to let Nappy's left hand to strike at his right. :p

[:'(]

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:26 pm
by MarshallEllis
Naomi:

We don't see these two games competing for users since the EiA fans will still probably buy EiA, we're presuming. There's room for many of these titles in this era and think that if anything, these games could attract more users for each i.e. If someone buys COG and finds that they like the Napoleonic era games then they may get EiA when it is released (Sometime in this decade before I die hopefully :-) ). There is no rule saying that you can only own/play one Napoloenic game so we're hoping to generate excitement for each game from each game!

Thank you


RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:29 pm
by James Ward
There is no rule saying that you can only own/play one Napoloenic game so we're hoping to generate excitement for each game from each game!

There's not? I'll have to check, I thought rule 10853.2003.187.26.5.C.2.b said just that! [:D]

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:17 pm
by Hanal
As far as I'm concerned, the more the merrier...too much of the WWII thing going on anyway....[;)]

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:41 pm
by j-s
ORIGINAL: James Ward
There is no rule saying that you can only own/play one Napoloenic game so we're hoping to generate excitement for each game from each game!

There's not? I'll have to check, I thought rule 10853.2003.187.26.5.C.2.b said just that! [:D]

No, it was a rule 10853.2003.187.26.5.C.2.c

But it was overruled on errata version 2.24225.5 and rule 23324.655752.r.53374.argh

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:56 pm
by nukkxx5058
So few (grand-strategy) Napo games on the market (a don't know a single one in fact [:D] ). There is certainly room for several titles ... look at the millions of games on ww2 ... :-(

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:42 pm
by carnifex
WHAT ?!!11! L'empereur not doing it for you anymore? I suggest nothing will satisfy you

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RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:39 pm
by Naomi
I liked this arcade Koei-made L'empereur. No idea why Koei stopped furthering this game to make a 21st-century version of it but has been always digging deeper into its Sangoku (the tenth version of which is a degenerating shadow of its predecessors). :p

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:42 pm
by Hanal
ORIGINAL: carnifex

WHAT ?!!11! L'empereur not doing it for you anymore? I suggest nothing will satisfy you

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I played that game to death on my 8 bit Nintendo and have been waiting for something better ever since!......[:D]

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:45 pm
by Reg Pither
ORIGINAL: Marshall Ellis
We don't see these two games competing for users since the EiA fans will still probably buy EiA, we're presuming. There's room for many of these titles in this era and think that if anything, these games could attract more users for each i.e. If someone buys COG and finds that they like the Napoleonic era games then they may get EiA when it is released (Sometime in this decade before I die hopefully :-) ). There is no rule saying that you can only own/play one Napoloenic game so we're hoping to generate excitement for each game from each game!

Hmmm... well , I'm afraid I'm one customer who'll spoil that theory, as now that CoG is coming out, I feel it knocks dull old EiA into a cocked hat. A grand strategy game made for the computer from scratch against a clunky old offering based on an old boardgame? No contest... [;)]

I've been following the progress of EiA for over a year and had every intention of buying it, if only because (as everyone points out) Napoleonic grand strategy games (or any Napoleonic games, really) are few and far between. But CoG just looks sooo much better and is free from the lumbering boardgame mechanics that it would daft not to choose it over EiA.

So only one game for me. Sorry. [:)]

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:48 am
by James Ward
No, it was a rule 10853.2003.187.26.5.C.2.c

But it was overruled on errata version 2.24225.5 and rule 23324.655752.r.53374.argh

The eratta, ahhhgg how could I forget[X(]

You are correct, the rule clearly states only one Napoloenic game allowed. Time for some house rules [8D]

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:58 am
by Pippin
NES? I thought that was C-64.


RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:50 pm
by LarkinVB
So few (grand-strategy) Napo games on the market (a don't know a single one in fact )

Anyone played Wargamer: Napoleon 1813 ?

It's opensource now so anyone with good C++ skill can improve it.

Wargamer sourcecode

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:53 pm
by argaur
I played it and i loved it, but the IA was horrible, and you can“t play online. But in general it was an extraordinary game.

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:29 pm
by Roads
Napoleon 1813 isn't a Grand Strategy game. But boy I did love it. If only the execution were half-way decent. The AI was dumb as anything, and it was chock full of bugs, but I loved it anyway. It would be great if it could be ressurected, but I suspect that's a very difficult task.

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:48 pm
by ahauschild
I personaly like to have it all. I want a Grand Strategy game, that allows me to choose to resolve my battles on Army, Divisional, Brigade, and yes even Regimental level. The true flare and tactics for a battle in Napoleanics come actuly only to live in a Regimental level game, but they would be very cumbersome to play if you wanted to play out 50k or more troop engagements. That is where the Divisional and Brigade level would come in.

Overall Crown of Glory is not bad, some AI improvements are needed, but because it is played on Divisional level to many tactical compromises had to be made to reflect true napoleanic tactics well. I think maybe if they considered an addon, that would allow you to choose to go down to brigade or regimental level would be kewl. I certainly would pay for such an addon.

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:35 am
by YohanTM2
I will definitely buy EiA when it comes out but am enjoying CoG. It will be interesting to see how things go. One of my good buddies is of the opposite mind. He will likely not buy EiA now (or at least for a year or two) as one from this era is plenty for him.

CoG does need some work still, but if it all gets worked out it might be a killer game.

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:15 pm
by NeverMan
It looks like they have already managed to put out an update for CoG and are still working on the initial release of EiA.

Go Marshall, GO!!

ps. Next time you might want to get more testers or at least ones without families and wives and that sort of obligation.

RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:31 pm
by carnifex


156 posts from NeverMan, each more non-constructive than the one before. Complain, complain, whine, insult, and complain again. Low self-esteem is treatable you know.




RE: Matrix releases CoG

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 1:02 pm
by NeverMan
Nice waste of cyber space carnifex, good job! Congrats to your original brilliance.