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All is "warm and fuzzy" again...

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:30 pm
by m10bob
Hi guys..As many of you know,I am a true fan of both WITP and CHS.Recently,I updated to WITP 1.6(having found no problems with beta 1.57),and I also upgraded to CHS 1.0(the newest version..)
While WITP 1.6 states it has adopted some of Andrew Brown's info and should present "no problems",I have encountered some strange "new and apparently undocumented features" which I did not need..
Did not know where to report them,but the last time I reported a problem on the "stock" WITP forum,I was told basically that my info was not needed as my version was the altered CHS version.That said,here are my (known) problems..
American PBY's assigned to Central Pacific at Midway OR Pearl will only transfer by air to Sydney Island,Umnak Island,or Dutch Harbor..PERIOD...
Trying to assign a ship with troops or cargo to Rangoon is like pulling teeth,and 80% of the time attempts made will get an error message that you can not move ships overland !.(You must be real careful to put the cursor at the very bottom tip of the Rangoon hex to get it to "take"..)
Assigning Rangoon as a ships' homebase however is not a problem,so it's apparently not a map issue,per se..
I have also noticed you can no longer move land units by ship from one "Southeast Asia" point to another,with some units,but recently arriving Southeast Asia units (like the 18th UK Div at Karachi) do not have this problem.(Apparently it only affects units already on the map when the game begins ??)
Units assigned to the Indian Command are annoying,(but historical),I just don't recall their reluctance to board troopships !!!(One is now forced to "purchase them" or TRY to move them overland !!!!!)
Oh,yes,that's one of the OTHER undocumented *features*..You as the commander no longer have the freedom to always assign LCU's to move as an error message may pop up telling you the unit cannot trace a line of supply from A to B..(VERY ANNOYING and this has halted my troop movement from Bombay to Diamond Harbor by land,with nary a Jap provocatuer in sight!!!!!!)Why would I march them that far????..Because you have to pay to put them on a ship literally at their feet!...............[:@]

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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:32 pm
by Captain Cruft
Sounds like you need to re-install the CHS pwhex.dat file ...

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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:28 pm
by Alikchi2
Sounds like you need to re-install the CHS pwhex.dat file ...

Agreed, I had a similar problem.

RE: Undocumented "features" !*#@*&#

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:49 pm
by Lemurs!
You cannot use the PWHEX.dat file that is in the patch with CHS and Andrew Brown's map.

Sorry about that guys.

Mike

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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:01 am
by Nomad
Sorry, didn't quite understand the above.

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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:00 am
by Don Bowen
ORIGINAL: m10bob

Hi guys..As many of you know,I am a true fan of both WITP and CHS.Recently,I updated to WITP 1.6(having found no problems with beta 1.57),and I also upgraded to CHS 1.0(the newest version..)
While WITP 1.6 states it has adopted some of Andrew Brown's info and should present "no problems",I have encountered some strange "new and apparently undocumented features" which I did not need..
Did not know where to report them,but the last time I reported a problem on the "stock" WITP forum,I was told basically that my info was not needed as my version was the altered CHS version.That said,here are my (known) problems..
American PBY's assigned to Central Pacific at Midway OR Pearl will only transfer by air to Sydney Island,Umnak Island,or Dutch Harbor..PERIOD...
Trying to assign a ship with troops or cargo to Rangoon is like pulling teeth,and 80% of the time attempts made will get an error message that you can not move ships overland !.(You must be real careful to put the cursor at the very bottom tip of the Rangoon hex to get it to "take"..)
Assigning Rangoon as a ships' homebase however is not a problem,so it's apparently not a map issue,per se..
I have also noticed you can no longer move land units by ship from one "Southeast Asia" point to another,with some units,but recently arriving Southeast Asia units (like the 18th UK Div at Karachi) do not have this problem.(Apparently it only affects units already on the map when the game begins ??)
Units assigned to the Indian Command are annoying,(but historical),I just don't recall their reluctance to board troopships !!!(One is now forced to "purchase them" or TRY to move them overland !!!!!)
Oh,yes,that's one of the OTHER undocumented *features*..You as the commander no longer have the freedom to always assign LCU's to move as an error message may pop up telling you the unit cannot trace a line of supply from A to B..(VERY ANNOYING and this has halted my troop movement from Bombay to Diamond Harbor by land,with nary a Jap provocatuer in sight!!!!!!)Why would I march them that far????..Because you have to pay to put them on a ship literally at their feet!...............[:@]

Let's see. The inability to load most units on ships is due to the new Restricted Indian Command. It only affects Indian Units in India and Burma - not British/Commonwealth units and not Indian units returned from duty in North Africa and the Mid East. This is intentional and is described in a Thead just below. The intent is to beak an Allied "cheat" under which India is stripped to reinforce forward areas in the anticipation that the Japanese player will never attack India. And, since it is a restricted command, they can not board ships - no matter where the ships may be going. The need to spend political points to move units is also intentional. We've also changed some US Units to "West Coast" command. All in all you should fell tighly constrainted in the units that you can move in the first few months of the war and must choose the ones that you want to use very carefully.

Other than PWHEX, I don't now what can be causing your map issues. I have tried selecting Rangoon and moving PBY from Midway to Wake - no problem.

Why don't you send me a save file: dbowen@austin.rr.com

RE: Undocumented "features" !*#@*&#

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:51 pm
by m10bob
Hey Don..You guys are very helpful..It must be the new 1.6 over-riding the CHS stuff as described as I never had these problems before.(Example),I could not even transport the North Pacific HQ from Pearl now!!!)..The India command is historical,and I appreciate it,but I suspect the lack of proper PWHEX data file was giving that PESKY "cannot trace supply" error message..I will re-install both layers of the CHS info now..

RE: Undocumented "features" !*#@*&#

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:16 am
by m10bob
I re-applied the great CHS info to the WITP file (after updating to 1.6) and the game is better than ever,(with the new India control rules)...THANK YOU CHS team !!!![&o]