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Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:32 am
by Tanaka
Here is what my entire Spanish front looks like in France: From Picardy to Lorraine...

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RE: Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:34 am
by Tanaka
From Lorraine to Liguria:

Liguria is the only undefended province I have...

Ive tried moving troops all over and they still get through!!! Behind Liguria, in Liguria, ive tried everything...

Anyone have a suggestion???


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RE: Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:34 am
by Tanaka
Next turn there are Cossacks in Berri and Guyenne and Liguria!!!:

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RE: Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:38 pm
by Tanaka
Anyone got any good tips to keep these guys from just appearing behind your lines?!?

Im going Cossack Crazy!!! [:D]

RE: Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:10 pm
by Mynok
[:'(]

Don't fight Russia?

RE: Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:21 pm
by Tanaka
ORIGINAL: Mynok

[:'(]

Don't fight Russia?

yep from now on i will try and avoid war with russia at all costs!!! [:D] too much work dealing with all those cossacks with cloaking devices!!!

RE: Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:15 pm
by Ralegh
Cossacks have a special ability to avoid combat, which is what leads to this happening. AFAIK, what you are seeing is valid and expected etc. You should see what it is doing to your economy! Yucky!

For this reason, I usually leave one inf or two militia divisions just out in the open in each province when I am fighting Russia - they beat up the cossacks. (or chase them around without wasting an army or corps counter)

RE: Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:20 am
by ericbabe
ORIGINAL: Ralegh
leads to this happening. AFAIK, what you are seeing is valid and expected etc. You should see what it is doing to your economy! Yucky!

I changed the economic blockade rule so that it requires some minimum level of troop strength to block a province's income now -- a single division is no longer sufficient to block income in an enemy province. I forget what the exact cutoff is, but it's something like 30K or 40K strength.


Eric

RE: Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:34 am
by ericbabe
Any loose division will attempt to avoid combat each sub-phase. The base chance is 50%. The presence of enemy units blocks movement of corps/armies out of a province, but unattached divisions have a chance of moving despite the presence of enemies.

The way to deal with this is, I think, as Ralegh suggested: surround them with 1 or 2 militia in every province.

Eric

RE: Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:55 am
by kerguelen
Any loose division will attempt to avoid combat each sub-phase. The base chance is 50%.

Can this be changed? Like Cossacks, irregular cavalry and Jäger getting like 75 % and normal infantry, Heavy cavalry only 25% ?

RE: Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:50 pm
by ericbabe
ORIGINAL: kerguelen
Any loose division will attempt to avoid combat each sub-phase. The base chance is 50%.

Can this be changed? Like Cossacks, irregular cavalry and Jäger getting like 75 % and normal infantry, Heavy cavalry only 25% ?

Sure. I was also thinking of allowing cavalry and lt cav a greater chance of "catching" loose divisions.


Eric

RE: Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:08 pm
by ggallagher
Eric:

Personally like both approaches....v arying capability of different units to avoid combat, combined with varying capability of certain unit types to pursure/catch such avoiding units.

RE: Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:26 pm
by Tanaka
ORIGINAL: Ralegh

Cossacks have a special ability to avoid combat, which is what leads to this happening. AFAIK, what you are seeing is valid and expected etc. You should see what it is doing to your economy! Yucky!

For this reason, I usually leave one inf or two militia divisions just out in the open in each province when I am fighting Russia - they beat up the cossacks. (or chase them around without wasting an army or corps counter)

thanks for the tips!

yep i tried putting one militia in each province and the cossacks kept avoiding them. i guess ill have to put more out there...

one thing though. if i am in another country will this still work???

RE: Cant figure out how these dang Cossacks keep getting behind my lines!?!?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:30 pm
by Tanaka
ORIGINAL: ggallagher

Eric:

Personally like both approaches....v arying capability of different units to avoid combat, combined with varying capability of certain unit types to pursure/catch such avoiding units.

yep these would be a big help!!! [:)]