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Upgrading air units

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:41 pm
by Duke71
Hi!

Can someone give me a hint about upgrading air units? I'm playing as Japanese in a PBEM game and I have some old Nate squadrons that I want to upgrade to Zeros, but I'm not allowed. I have Air HQs at the base and over twice the needed supplies, but I get the message that the HQ is too far away and there is not enough supplies at the base. This also happens when I'm trying to upgrade bomber units.

Duke

RE: Upgrading air units

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:44 pm
by DuckofTindalos
The HQ you need to have at the base is the one the unit is attached to, i.e. Southern Area Army, etc. Putting in a Jap Air Flotilla or Air Division isn't enough.

RE: Upgrading air units

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:52 pm
by Duke71
Roger that!

But what is the use of the Air forces HQs? Only support?

Duke

RE: Upgrading air units

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:57 pm
by DuckofTindalos
See 7.2.2.6 in the manual: Air HQ's allow level bombers to fly offensive air missions at full strength.

RE: Upgrading air units

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:01 pm
by Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: Duke71

Hi!

Can someone give me a hint about upgrading air units? I'm playing as Japanese in a PBEM game and I have some old Nate squadrons that I want to upgrade to Zeros, but I'm not allowed. I have Air HQs at the base and over twice the needed supplies, but I get the message that the HQ is too far away and there is not enough supplies at the base. This also happens when I'm trying to upgrade bomber units.

Duke

You can't upgrade an IJAAF unit to an IJNAF plane type. Zeros can only be put into naval fighter units. Your Nate units can (at the beginning of the war) be upgraded to Oscars.

RE: Upgrading air units

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:02 pm
by AmiralLaurent
You will never be able to upgrade Nates (Army fighters) to Zeroes (Navy fighters). If you have chosen the option 'player defined upgrades' at the start of you game (started with v1.6 or later), you may change the upgrade path but only to an aircraft of the same category.

Example: Nates upgrade to Oscar II, you may change it to Oscar I, Tony, Ki-44, Ki-84, etc... but you won't be able to convert to any type of Zero

As for air HQ their main interest is to allow bombers to fly missions at 100%. Any raid launched from a base without an air HQ will see its strenght (in plane number) reduced by 25%. They also help IIRC with organizing raids better and with repairing AC faster.

RE: Upgrading air units

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:03 pm
by Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent

You will never be able to upgrade Nates (Army fighters) to Zeroes (Navy fighters). If you have chosen the option 'player defined upgrades' at the start of you game (started with v1.6 or later), you may change the upgrade path but only to an aircraft of the same category.

Example: Nates upgrade to Oscar II, you may change it to Oscar I, Tony, Ki-44, Ki-84, etc... but you won't be able to convert to any type of Zero

As for air HQ their main interest is to allow bombers to fly missions at 100%. Any raid launched from a base without an air HQ will see its strenght (in plane number) reduced by 25%. They also help IIRC with organizing raids better and with repairing AC faster.

Beat you by 52 seconds! [:D][:D]

RE: Upgrading air units

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:04 pm
by DuckofTindalos
Damn, I'm getting old and feeble. Didn't even catch that he was trying to convert Nates to Zeros. It's depressing...[:(]

RE: Upgrading air units

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:14 pm
by Mike Solli
You must have just finished a marathon WitP session. It usually makes me loopy.

RE: Upgrading air units

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:19 pm
by Duke71
Hehe!

Thanks for the quick responses. So I need to locate the main area HQ to upgrade the air units that belong to that, is there any requirements concerning supplies too?.

The whole "upgrade Nates to Zeros"-issue was just a snag to check if you guys were on the alert... [;)]

Check Six!

Duke [8D]

RE: Upgrading air units

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:52 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: Duke71

The whole "upgrade Nates to Zeros"-issue was just a snag to check if you guys were on the alert... [;)]

Yes, of course it was...[8D]

RE: Upgrading air units

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:01 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: Duke71

So I need to locate the main area HQ to upgrade the air units that belong to that, is there any requirements concerning supplies too?.

Check section 15.2 in the manual. Right at the beginning is a list of requirements for air groups to upgrade.

RE: Upgrading air units

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:20 pm
by TheElf
You can also fly your A/C to the HQ base hex and upgrade there.

RE: Upgrading air units

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:48 pm
by DuckofTindalos
Come on, Elf! You gotta let him do at least a little of the work...[:D]