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Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:25 am
by Brady
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RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:27 am
by rogueusmc
p-38?

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:46 am
by marky
i remember seeing p38s with more guns than that, or im jus imagining

tho i do agree it looks like a lightning

or its a p400 maybe

kinda hard to tell by just that lol

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:50 am
by MkXIV
There is a glass piece under the guns, I think F-5's were unarmed maybe this is some sort of Hybrid P-38? Or did some F-5's have guns?

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:59 am
by marky
according to wat i just looked at the F5As did NOT mount guns[:'(]

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:07 am
by ilovestrategy

What is he doing? I'm trying to figure that one out.

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:16 am
by RUPD3658
Could be one of these:

Lightning variants: Pathfinders, Night Fighter, XP-49, XP-58
The Lightning was modified for other roles. In addition to the F-4 and F-5 reconnaissance variants, a number of P-38Js and P-38Ls were field-modified as formation bombing "pathfinders," fitted with a glazed nose with a Norden bombsight, or a H2X radar "bombing through overcast" nose. A pathfinder would lead a formation of other P-38s, each overloaded with two 900 kg (2,000 pound) bombs, and the entire formation would release when the pathfinder did.

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:22 am
by RUPD3658
Another possibility:

After the war, a P-38L was experimentally fitted with armament of three 15.2 mm (0.60 in) machine guns. This sounds like a misprint, but such guns were actually developed. The 15.2 mm cartridge had been developed early in the war for an infantry "anti-tank rifle," a type of weapon developed by a number of nations in the 1930s when tanks were lighter, but by 1942 the idea of taking on a tank with a large-caliber rifle was somewhere between "outdated" and "suicidal."

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:22 am
by tsimmonds
I had a Revell model of a P38 that I built in like 1967. I remember it had variant noses and this was one of them. I'll be damned if I can remember what it was though. Big surprise there, I can't even remember my own telephone number anymore.[:o]

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:25 am
by RUPD3658
I had the same model. You are thinking of the "Droop Snoot" which had an all plexiglass dome. No guns.

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:30 am
by jcjordan
Douglas A20 or Boston

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:06 am
by Tiornu
There was a Hispano 15mm design that the Americans began developing (T18 series), but it didn't look promising enough to pursue. The T17 was the 15.2mm project based on the army's AT round. Development lasted from 1942 to 1946. Production totaled 600 guns, but none saw service.

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:05 am
by Crimguy
I'm going with the A-20H Havoc/Boston. I'm assuming there are 3 more .50 cal mgs on the lower part of the nose. Never seen one, just read about it, so don't take my word on it.

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:14 am
by YankeeAirRat
A P-70?

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:55 am
by Smiffus64
Fokker G-1?

And you can just see the Essex in the background [;)]

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:06 am
by DuckofTindalos
Don't think it's a P-38. There's only three guns visible, and if it was a Lightning, there'd be four.

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:57 am
by fokkov
Fokker G1 is not possible .
Allmost all destroyed in may 1940, except 2 or 3 witch where used by the germans
for training and testing.

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:21 am
by wild_Willie2
can you imagine sitting in the nose bombadier position of that plane, and 3 0.5 call machineguns open up about 1 feet over your head [:(][X(][:-]

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:28 am
by MkXIV
ORIGINAL: jcjordan

Douglas A20 or Boston

Nice Catch.... If you look closely you can see the frame work of the plexiglass nose (the plexiglass has been painted over. That frame pattern matches exactly with a Boston MKIII
[&o]

RE: Name This...(419)

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:07 pm
by WhoCares
When I first saw that picture I thought it was someone trying to ride a rhinoceros the wrong way [:D]