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I am playing MCLV and just got to the scenario "If at first you do not succeed" (Assaulting the istmas leading to the Crimea).

One of my tanks got within 2 hexes of a Soviet scout team and got hit by a molotov. I looked at the now spotted scout tean and saw that it had something called a "Molotov Projector".

Anyone know what this is? I have never heard of it before. Nastly little weapon. [:@]

Woah--this weapon DOES exist in the 8.3 OOBs, but I can't find any units that were equipped with them. Hmm--was this weapon a designer tool? Probably.

Alternatively, it could have been a failed weapon project. Other nations have had these, too, such as the US Army's stupid attempt at a shoulder-fired mortar -- the bazooka filled this need nicely.

It is a molotov with some sort of launcher, the Soviets have it early in the war, 1941-42
there is a whole thread on it here
http://spwaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t ... highlight=

Would'nt this be one of the British Northover projectors, brought over as lendlease from the Allies??

Or maybe a giant slingshot?[;)]

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Woah--this weapon DOES exist in the 8.3 OOBs, but I can't find any units that were equipped with them. Hmm--was this weapon a designer tool? Probably.

Alternatively, it could have been a failed weapon project. Other nations have had these, too, such as the US Army's stupid attempt at a shoulder-fired mortar -- the bazooka filled this need nicely.

Not a designer choice. I presume it is a molotov cocktail launched from something like the Brit PIAT.

Damn! That must have been interesting to use... in the ancient Chinese way![X(]

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Woah--this weapon DOES exist in the 8.3 OOBs, but I can't find any units that were equipped with them. Hmm--was this weapon a designer tool? Probably.
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I am running 8.4 and it is a Soviet Scout Team that is armed with the projector. Haven't checked the OOB to see if this is a custom unit for MCLV or not.

Can anyone find a picture of one of these? Where is Brady when you need him![&o]

I think that the NorthOver Projector was given to the Home Guard units, only, and it never went to battlefield.

You ask, I deliver:

It would be nice to find out how that works in practice. Finns did not need projectors, just some wit like: "I bet ten marks that you cannot smash this bottle onto that tank engine."

"W-what? Sure I can."

http://www.home-guard.org.uk/northover.html

It was meant to fire a Mk 76 grenade, with a similar action to a modern-day grenade launcher. I was only able to find one reference to it having been used with Molotovs, with, as the page put it, "predictable (i.e. negative) consequences for the crew".

The Soviets had a weapon called an Ampulomet, which was designed to fire Molotovs. I'm digging for information on it now.

Here it is.



The following text is from the site where I found this picture. It's originally in Russian, so I ran it through Babelfish:

primitive ampulomet, prepared in blockade Leningrad. It is found in Lake region. Lordly during November 1994 below: regular 120- mm ampulomet, naydenyy on the "Neva five-kopeck coin", in 1 km from st. of apraksin. This type of weapon is accepted to the armament BY RKKA - WORKERS' AND PEASANTS' RED ARMY at the end of the 30th it is annual. It were established on the machine tool, it shot with the aid of the blank cartridge from the signal pistol thick-walled 1- cm by glass spheres with samovosplamyanyayushcheysya ognesmes'yu on the basis of white phosphorus, analogous to liquid in the bottles "KS".

Thanks. I can't see this beeing too accurate. Looks like it would be as deadly to it's crew as anything they shot at it with.

"Ok comrade, you load the tube with gun powder and I will put the fragile glass bottle full of burning gasoline into the tube and.....BOOM....Ouch!"

Since this particular one was found near Leningrad, I have an idea that it might have been a primitive stopgap weapon meant for militia units. Those were expendable anyway...

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Here it is.

The following text is from the site where I found this picture. It's originally in Russian, so I ran it through Babelfish:

primitive ampulomet, prepared in blockade Leningrad. It is found in Lake region. Lordly during November 1994 below: regular 120- mm ampulomet, naydenyy on the "Neva five-kopeck coin", in 1 km from st. of apraksin. This type of weapon is accepted to the armament BY RKKA - WORKERS' AND PEASANTS' RED ARMY at the end of the 30th it is annual. It were established on the machine tool, it shot with the aid of the blank cartridge from the signal pistol thick-walled 1- cm by glass spheres with samovosplamyanyayushcheysya ognesmes'yu on the basis of white phosphorus, analogous to liquid in the bottles "KS".

The Bablefish translation sounds like the directions I have been given for assembling furniture. [:D]

Here are the lyrics to one of my favorite commercials that addresses this topic:

Mr. Furniture Assembly Manual Writer

Bud Light Presents Real Men of Genius
(Real Men of Genius)

Today, we salute you, Mr. Furniture Assembly Manual Writer
(Mr. Furniture Assembly Manual Writer)
Thanks to you, people everywhere can simply purchase furniture,
drive it home, open a box, and go completely insane.
(Driving me crazy)
Knowing we can't read Chineese, Dutch, or German,
you thoughtfully include pictures.
Pictures that look nothing like the item purchased.
(No spreakinze Dutch now)
Insert piece A into slot B, put C into hole D
Then curse, cry and smash with hammer.
(Oh no!)


So, crack open an ice cold budlight oh maestro of the manual,
You make it so simple, a monkey could do it.
A rocket scientist monkey.
(That's one smart monkey)

Translated from Japanese into English by a blind, illiterate North Korean rice farmer, who doesn't speak either language...[:D]

Here are the lyrics to one of my favorite commercials that addresses this topic:

Mr. Furniture Assembly Manual Writer

Bud Light Presents Real Men of Genius
(Real Men of Genius)

We salute you!