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Hi all,

I remember reading before in the support forum about the pilot limit issue being a problem since once reached you can't receive anymore replacements into your airgroups!

Is this definitely the case and has a work around being devised as yet?

Reminds of good ol BTR days [8D]

Steven

If it's the same than BTR than just ask JCL which solution he came up with !

I think it is a different problem than the BTR one but similar in the end results.

PS. JCL is AWOL nowadays unfortunately.

Steven

If other have this same problem take the route I did and PM Frag, Mogami, Joel Billings, Erik Rutins and Marc Schwanebeck. I got a reply from Joel Billings:

I've sent your note onto the programmers. I'll let you know what I find out.

Joel

But the more noise people make about this the more chance there MAY be of getting a utility we can run to clear out our pilots. I don't think there's need for a patch if a simple standalone utility can be made available that we can run to clear the unneeded data in our games out. Definitely may be easier to write than a whole new patch.

It really sucks if this "feature" stops air war in middle of 1944... I wonder if it affects everyone ?

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

It really sucks if this "feature" stops air war in middle of 1944... I wonder if it affects everyone ?

Yes. The 30,000 pilot limit is HARDCODED so if you destroy a lot of planes between you and your opponent it's just a matter of time since none of the 30,000 slots are ever cleared out.

God, new bug in the town.
And this time we got show stopper.
But, hey lets be positive. This bug give us a great opportunity. Untill mid of 44 your play
WITP after 30000 pilots limit is reached you got WPO. Very good, we got 2in1 game set, what a bargain. [;)]

It hasn't affected me as yet but I know from hearing from people who have reached late game (like yourself) it will crop up as you say.

I'll PM them all (seeing if the chappie I know who helped solve the BTR pilot issue could help with this).

Steven

there is simple solution to the problem: instead of engaging in air to air combat, destroy planes on the ground. [:@]

Lets try and remain calm all.

I'm fairly certain there will be a work around it may just take a while to get it sorted [:)]

Steven

ORIGINAL: Marten

there is simple solution to the problem: instead of engaging in air to air combat, destroy planes on the ground. [:@]

Marten, THOSE planes destroyed on the ground COUNT against the hard-coded limit also.

I've e-mailed Mike and he said Gary is looking into this but what he really needs are some saves that have this problem. I've not been very active but you can still send them to me at sirkid@cfl.rr.com and I'll make sure Mike gets them.

ORIGINAL: dereck

ORIGINAL: Marten

there is simple solution to the problem: instead of engaging in air to air combat, destroy planes on the ground. [:@]

Marten, THOSE planes destroyed on the ground COUNT against the hard-coded limit also.

naval bombardment not often kills pilots...

Hi Kid,

Would it help if I asked the guy who made the BTR utility to solve this problem (in BTR) to drop one of you guys a line?

Steven

I can't answer that I've been out of the loop too long.[:(]

Good to know that it's been worked on !! Now, everyone with the bug, send saves to Kid. Quicker this gets repaired, better for all.

I am not 100% sure but I believe that "dead" and "missing" pilots are no longer kept in the database as of patch 1.602. The pilot display has changed and there are other pilot allocations.

I BELIEVE that the problem (with the latest patch) occurs only when there are 30,000+ active aircraft in the game.

what on earth posessed them to implement a max pilot limit anyway ? Personally i can see no logic behid it whatsoever, especially if its a combined jap+allied losses ..

Mayeb someone with an old eugenics philosiphy decided that only a certain percentage of a given population are able to fly so hard coded it in [;)]

A guess as to why ...


Most of the database gets loaded into memory so the turn will process quickly ... one easy way to do this is to have a fixed size for each major area ... as can be seen this "advantage" has trade-offs but dynamic options also have trade-offs in that they require more processing time for managing ...

Kid - ok no probs. If it can potentially help etc just holler me.

Rob - Not sure why they had the limit and if so why so low but as I say BTR had one too. It's a Gary signature thing [;)]

Don - That being the case would still make sense for this to appear in 44 right?

Regards,

Steven