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Routing Army not surrendering
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:42 am
by Azog
I had the (very stupid) idea of using Ill de France as a bait for the Austrian Army. As they entered Ille de France, I attacked them from three adjacent provinces, in the others I had some divisions, for avoiding retreat. The austrian lost the battle and retreat to and adjacent province, where, in the same turn, they fought with the unit I had there, winning this time. It is not suppoused that they surrender when they cannot retreat???[&:][&:]
1.1.0 Patch installed.
RE: Routing Army not surrendering
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:43 am
by Ralegh
I agree with your perplexity - that should not have happened.
I recently did a test of this precise rule in the current beta of v1.2 (fighting a British army in Ile de France, as it happens), and they did surrender correctly. So maybe it was a bug and now is fixed?
RE: Routing Army not surrendering
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:54 pm
by ericbabe
If you can, please supply more details. Did you have a unit in the province into which the Austria army retreated before the battle started?
RE: Routing Army not surrendering
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:51 am
by Azog
Thanks for your answering.
Yes, I just wanted to make the perfect trap, so I waited also one turn of Siege in Paris for having the Austrian army for sure INSIDE Paris and not GOING into Paris. Then I just put a division in some provinces, and attacked from Normandy, Picardy, and the other province South of France, now I cant remember. The Austrian were defeated and retreated to the province East of France (the one divided by the river) . As they retreated a new battle window popped up. What I cannot say for sure is if I took out this division from the garrisson, or it moved from an adjacent province there. So if you mean that the division maybe entered AFTER the Austrian Army retreated, it is possible, but not probable. First because I am quite sure to have made it all before, that is, letting the Austrians happily Siege one turn longer in Ille de France. I really wanted get them, you know. Second because I was looking at any movement, and I think I would have noticed if I would have seen my unit entering AFTER the Austrian Army.
Anyway, it was a stupid strategy, since my National Moral droped brutaly.
I could have some save game, I will check.
Thank you, anyway.
RE: Routing Army not surrendering
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:30 pm
by pricemc1
If you were moving other units they may not have completed their moves when your main battle happened and this is probably why the other side could retreat. It may be in your case the other divisions or corps you had set up had not actually moved into their target surrounding provinces when your main battle happened. When I try to do something like what you were trying I use garrison units in the surrounding provinces and pop them out of garrison on the turn I'm attacking. This seems to always happen before other movement from what I can tell.
Mike
RE: Routing Army not surrendering
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:44 pm
by Azog
pricemc1, as I told above, what you say is possible, but not probable. I think I took a division from the garrison. Anyway, I will maybe not have time til weekend to check the save games, quite bussy.