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My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:38 pm
by hawker
THIS THREAD IS OFF LIMIT FOR GEN.HOEPNER

Ok,this is my first AAR.I am going to take GH with my Japanese forces. We gonna play in Andrew map mod. Andrew,thanks thousand time for great job! We agreed for some house rules:

1 - No new TFs for allies on turn 1
2 - No changes in allied orders for planes on turn one ( means that i cannot move any squadron nor change anything about planes-CAP levels, altitudes, etc...)
3 - New orders for allied TF allowed only to the already formed TFs on turn one.
4 - No allied 4Es night bombing( only naval and city attacks allowed at night).
5 - No allied 4Es mission from AFs less than 5
6 - KB is allowed to raid Manila,PH or Singapore on turn one.
7 - Kwantung units can be moved to China only paying PPs
8 - ASW TF max of 6 ships.
9 - Landings on non-base hexes NOT allowed.
10 - no sub commando kamikaze raids
11 - no float planes other than Glens allowed on subs

I won many battles agaist allied opponent but GH is better then them. I have developed two planes. Plan ORANGE and plan YELLOW.Plan orange is for first year. My first move is quick offensive on malaya,DEI,and filippines. Major offensive on khota baru is planned.Also,attack on the Kuching and all north Borneo is planned for first Turn.On the Filippines IJN will attack Wigan,Appari,Laong,Legaspi On the first Turn.Well,i am still planning.

Stay Tuned

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:44 pm
by hawker
Any last min. Tip?

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:02 pm
by mc3744
ORIGINAL: hawker

Any last min. Tip?


Good luck [;)]

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:02 pm
by mc3744
....... you'll need it [:D]

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:11 pm
by ADM Halsey
Make a stab and cut supply line to Austraila quick. There is a base just north of Australia that I can not remember the name but it has a level 4 airbase (abmoria or something). Take it quick to catch the eveacuation of ships to Darwin.

Good Luck!

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:09 pm
by DuckofTindalos
You're thinking of Amboina, off the northern tip of New Guinea.

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:12 pm
by ADM Halsey
That be the place. Gives you good airbase to hit shipping in and out of Darwin early.

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:15 pm
by DuckofTindalos
Yup. Finding planes to put there is another matter though, what with all the other places they'll be needed.

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:22 pm
by ADM Halsey
I put 3 groups Fighter, Search, and level bomber. You only need 3 groups to start since it will take a while for the ship to make it down from Manila. I also send an invasion TF to Johnson island and do the same thing there.

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:28 pm
by hawker
KB wil make a short work of these renegade ships

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:34 pm
by DuckofTindalos
You'll need that elsewhere... Unless you dillute the strength by splitting it up, it can't be everywhere at once...

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:34 pm
by ADM Halsey
Yes the Big KB can make short work of just about anything it runs into. It will not make it in time to cut off ships from Manila to Darwin. The baby KB once you get them all togather at Palau can also hunt them down but that takes time to get it together.

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:39 pm
by DuckofTindalos
Actually, don't overestimate the strength of the KB. With the low IJN pilot pool, and the scarcity of replacement aircraft, it's like a glass hammer.

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:40 pm
by hawker
My initial plan is Malaya,DEI,Philippines.KB will provide support in these areas.I am not attacking PH.It is a waste of time.

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:43 pm
by mc3744
ORIGINAL: hawker

KB wil make a short work of these renegade ships

1. You'll encouter 1 ship TFs, hence you may want to split your TB squadrons to be able to hit more ships. If you use DBs use them below 15k ft. to avoid big groups (9) hitting only one ship.

2. The first days of Dec it's always bad weather, hence single ship TFs are hard to locate. I know by experience, a lot [;)].
A couple of small surface combat TFs in the critical choke points can do wonders vs. the single ships, way better than the TBs

3. I'm almost sure he'll make a stand at Java. Hence you may want to make sure he won't be able to reinforce it. Timor has to be taken ASAP.

4. Darwin is undefensible until the end of January. If you take it (and Daly) by that time, he cannot retake them by land because he'd go out of supply from Alice. This way you can make sure that Java is totally isolated.

5. IMHO Central Pacific is critical for the supply and troops flow to Australia-New Guinea. You can only grab it in the first 3 months of war. And you need it all or it's pointless. I mean that you need from Palmyra to Bora Bora. I always play the Allies and that's my biggest terror: to have the Pacific sealed.

Just my two cents.

I'll follow this AAR with interest, after all you are playing with my nemesis [:)]

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:43 pm
by ADM Halsey
Why is attaking Pearl a waste of time? I am just speaking in the sense that I have not played a game where Pearl has not been attacked.

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:49 pm
by ADM Halsey
5. IMHO Central Pacific is critical for the supply and troops flow to Australia-New Guinea. You can only grab it in the first 3 months of war. And you need it all or it's pointless. I mean that you need from Palmyra to Bora Bora. I always play the Allies and that's my biggest terror: to have the Pacific sealed.

I am fighting a battle along that lines as the allies but not a CHS game. The Japanese player took Baker Island and I quickly took it back. We are fighting over Canton Island which he finally took in the later part of April. He has Tarawa lvl 4 air base. I have mirrored this move in another game and it gives the allies big shipping problems.

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:53 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: ADM Halsey

Why is attaking Pearl a waste of time? I am just speaking in the sense that I have not played a game where Pearl has not been attacked.

Because your Return on Investment is too low. The KB will spend a butt-load of time getting back to the real warzone after not inflicting a lot of damage on Pearl. Let the USN make the trip across the Pacific, into your backyard, and then whack them with LBA, KB, SS's, etc... In the meantime, use your resources to destroy the much more immediate impediments to your conquest of the SRA: the Royal Navy, the Dutch and the US Asiatic Fleet.

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:53 pm
by John 3rd
I agree with MC3744. The isolation and taking of Darwin, Aust is the key. If you can grab that quick then you prevent all sorts of trouble. Those four towns in NW Australia produce enough supply that they can sustain themselves. The Aussies can chose to counterattack but they will weaken themselves elsewhere to do this. It is good to make those Aussies choose where they will fight!

RE: My war against Gen.Hoepner

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:01 pm
by mc3744
ORIGINAL: ADM Halsey
5. IMHO Central Pacific is critical for the supply and troops flow to Australia-New Guinea. You can only grab it in the first 3 months of war. And you need it all or it's pointless. I mean that you need from Palmyra to Bora Bora. I always play the Allies and that's my biggest terror: to have the Pacific sealed.

I am fighting a battle along that lines as the allies but not a CHS game. The Japanese player took Baker Island and I quickly took it back. We are fighting over Canton Island which he finally took in the later part of April. He has Tarawa lvl 4 air base. I have mirrored this move in another game and it gives the allies big shipping problems.

April is quite late for the Japs in CENPAC, the Allies are already able to concentrate some serious ground force. But if you get the Atolls when they are still almost empty (by Jan) and you prevent reinforcements being carried with the G3/4Ms you buy more time to finish the job.

On top of that you can employ the Hoepner's FCD: go in with 3-5 divisions escorted by the DS on an atoll and wipe it clean.