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Treaty question
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:16 pm
by TexHorns
As Russia playing 1792 scenario, Sweden surrendered to me. In my surrender treaty I had Sweden cede a province back to Prussia and had Sweden retire a 3 star general. The rest was reparations.
The next turn I got a message that the treaty was rejected. (Thought it couldn't be rejected.) I then looked at treaty screen to propose new treaty. Was not able to propose new treaty. I also was no longer at war with sweden and the countdown of enforced peace had begun.
So I wasted many russian soldiers and a 6000 point surrender. I got nothing out if this, plus i have to wait to declare war again. Has anyone seen this happen before?
RE: Treaty question
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:41 pm
by Hard Sarge
what it looks like happened, if you can go back and look, Prussia rejected the treaty
may sound odd, but what you should of done was take the province you wanted Prussia to get, and then make a deal with Prussia to give it to them
Surrender Treaties should only be between you and your enemy
RE: Treaty question
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:02 pm
by TheOx
Wow. I'm glad you posted this, thats a automatic load of the autosave right there[:D] What are you doing giving provinces to other states, let them win a war and ask for it [;)]
RE: Treaty question
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:18 pm
by TexHorns
Yea Sarge, I considered that, but thought I would get opportunity to redo the treaty. Why in the world would Prussia refuse a treaty that gives back to her one of her original provinces? That sounds like a bad AI.
OX, in the game Prussia is down to one provice, Magdeburg. By allowing Prussia to regain some provinces it allows for a rebalance of the game. Prussia acts as a buffer between Mother Russia and all the wolves of western europe. Besides based on some the other posts if your empire gets too big it becomes unprofitable. I have all of Poland, Finland and major chunks of Prussia and Austria as we speak.
As an aside, it is interesting that 5+ years into the game Russia and Turkey have yet to go at it, although angry red faces abound between our diplomatic states.
RE: Treaty question
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:50 pm
by TheOx
OX, in the game Prussia is down to one provice, Magdeburg.
Yikes, I can see the reasoning now. The more diluted the pool, the better the chances for significant gain. [:D]
RE: Treaty question
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:28 pm
by Naomi
ORIGINAL: TexHorns
Yea Sarge, I considered that, but thought I would get opportunity to redo the treaty. Why in the world would Prussia refuse a treaty that gives back to her one of her original provinces? That sounds like a bad AI.
OX, in the game Prussia is down to one provice, Magdeburg. By allowing Prussia to regain some provinces it allows for a rebalance of the game. Prussia acts as a buffer between Mother Russia and all the wolves of western europe. Besides based on some the other posts if your empire gets too big it becomes unprofitable. I have all of Poland, Finland and major chunks of Prussia and Austria as we speak.
As an aside, it is interesting that 5+ years into the game Russia and Turkey have yet to go at it, although angry red faces abound between our diplomatic states.
There are implications about your kindness:
Prussia might've deemed staying as tiny as a nation-state would be in its interest, or one more province would make little difference, hence its decline of your gift.
There is no real buffer in COG, given there are always tendencies and possibilities for your enemies to trespass the buffer sphere to lend you trouble.
A caveat follows that you need not be so kind, as your targets don't necessarily take it this way.
