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Protectorate bug

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:26 am
by Grand_Armee
Playing 1796 Scenario as Russia. Denmark asked us to be it's protectorate. we said yes. They weren't at war with anyone.

Trying to avoid the "bad boy" position I liberated Denmark and saw their army go back to the red and white.

A few turns later I was sending fleets to blockade Constantinople. To my surprise, I still held the Danish fleet and Danish merchant as mine (though showing the smaller Danish flag). A quick reference to my military advisor screen confirmed this. This is nice for Russia, but not nice for future gameplay, I feel.

RE: Protectorate bug

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:00 pm
by carnifex
I too am frequently confused as to what happens to the armies and fleets when minors change status. I've conquered minors then set them to protectorate and gotten their leaders and their ships but their corps just disappeared. Other times I made protectorates I've seen all their land forces teleport straight to my capital seemingly out of nowhere.

RE: Protectorate bug

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:53 am
by Ralegh
I think the current behaviour is:

a) If you perform a coup, provinces become conquered, all units vanish - leaders stay on map, but neutral.
b) If you conquer, all units continue to be loyal, but there are no new divisions coming. [This simulates the historical reality of divisions and even armies staying at war even though their nation was destroyed.]
c) If they ask to be your protectorate, or you make them a protectorate manually, any units and all leaders become loyal to you.
d) If you liberate a minor (a) as a result of a peace treaty their units go home (b) manually, the units remain loyal

Whether any of this is a bug is a matter for Eric.

RE: Protectorate bug

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:53 pm
by Grand_Armee
ORIGINAL: Ralegh

I think the current behaviour is:

d) If you liberate a minor (a) as a result of a peace treaty their units go home (b) manually, the units remain loyal

Whether any of this is a bug is a matter for Eric.

In this case, it would have been "(b)". But the Danish Army went back to being Danish, while the naval assets remained Russian. Come, Danish sailors to St. Petersburg...you will never see your homes again! Talk about pressgangs!