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Ship "Maneuver" Rating

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:27 pm
by Admiral DadMan
In the Editor Manual

"3.2.1 Ship Class General Attributes

Maneuver represents the ship’s ability to avoid bombs and torpedoes, and is directly related to the length
of the ship; the longer it is, the harder it is for the ship to avoid these attacks."

So, is the logic that the higher the number, the better the maneuverability, (which means that 40 is better than 20)?

RE: Ship "Maneuver" Rating

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:36 pm
by el cid again
So, is the logic that the higher the number, the better the maneuverability, (which means that 40 is better than 20)?

Good guess. We lack a technical manual. But the data seems to show that smaller ships get more maneuverability.

RE: Ship "Maneuver" Rating

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:11 am
by Ron Saueracker
I would like to know how much impact various factors and valus have on the dynamics. Persoanlly I think torpedo planes are overly accurate vs all types of ships. More factors could have been utilized for this than a simple accuarcy rating. Number of planes attacking in the formation, something to differentiate between the possibility of planes attacking from just one side or off both bows or quarters (in an abstract manner of course based on the number of planes attacking). Without this, I suspect that a drastic reduction in torpedo plane accuracy might be in order for the CHS, especially with regard to 2E types.

RE: Ship "Maneuver" Rating

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:29 am
by Tankerace
ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan

In the Editor Manual

"3.2.1 Ship Class General Attributes

Maneuver represents the ship’s ability to avoid bombs and torpedoes, and is directly related to the length
of the ship; the longer it is, the harder it is for the ship to avoid these attacks."

So, is the logic that the higher the number, the better the maneuverability, (which means that 40 is better than 20)?

Actually, I find that the larger the ship, the smaller the number. Don't ask me why, but the bigger the tub, the lower the number (relatively, i.e. an Iowa has a lower number than a Nevada which has a lower number than a Northampton, etc).

RE: Ship "Maneuver" Rating

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:36 am
by Bodhi
ORIGINAL: Tankerace

ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan

In the Editor Manual

"3.2.1 Ship Class General Attributes

Maneuver represents the ship’s ability to avoid bombs and torpedoes, and is directly related to the length
of the ship; the longer it is, the harder it is for the ship to avoid these attacks."

So, is the logic that the higher the number, the better the maneuverability, (which means that 40 is better than 20)?

Actually, I find that the larger the ship, the smaller the number. Don't ask me why, but the bigger the tub, the lower the number (relatively, i.e. an Iowa has a lower number than a Nevada which has a lower number than a Northampton, etc).

Isn't that exactly what the manual says: larger ships = lower maneuverability?

RE: Ship "Maneuver" Rating

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:00 am
by Admiral DadMan
ORIGINAL: Bodhi

ORIGINAL: Tankerace

ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan

In the Editor Manual

"3.2.1 Ship Class General Attributes

Maneuver represents the ship’s ability to avoid bombs and torpedoes, and is directly related to the length
of the ship; the longer it is, the harder it is for the ship to avoid these attacks."

So, is the logic that the higher the number, the better the maneuverability, (which means that 40 is better than 20)?

Actually, I find that the larger the ship, the smaller the number. Don't ask me why, but the bigger the tub, the lower the number (relatively, i.e. an Iowa has a lower number than a Nevada which has a lower number than a Northampton, etc).

Isn't that exactly what the manual says: larger ships = lower maneuverability?
I guess I needed it spelled out for me, the wording was kind of odd. It's not a really true measure of anything, it's more of a relative rating I have found. I had some difficulty agreeing with some of the ratings until I started looking up the hull lengths. They could have made it easier by just entering the hull length and then use a formula to calculate what was needed. Well anyway. It'll work for my mod regardless. (hee hee hee...)

RE: Ship "Maneuver" Rating

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:27 am
by el cid again
Actually, I find that the larger the ship, the smaller the number. Don't ask me why, but the bigger the tub, the lower the number (relatively, i.e. an Iowa has a lower number than a Nevada which has a lower number than a Northampton, etc).

Just as it should be. Think of it in terms of something a ship can do - like turn. Say, degrees per minute. Or accelerate - say yards per second per second. The bigger the ship, the smaller all performance numbers will be. I bet the index used is a multiple of several factors - and I wish we knew what they were. But yes - the bigger the tub, the WORSE its maneuverability, so the LOWER its index number.

RE: Ship "Maneuver" Rating

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:09 am
by akdreemer
ORIGINAL: Tankerace

ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan

In the Editor Manual

"3.2.1 Ship Class General Attributes

Maneuver represents the ship’s ability to avoid bombs and torpedoes, and is directly related to the length
of the ship; the longer it is, the harder it is for the ship to avoid these attacks."

So, is the logic that the higher the number, the better the maneuverability, (which means that 40 is better than 20)?


Actually, I find that the larger the ship, the smaller the number. Don't ask me why, but the bigger the tub, the lower the number (relatively, i.e. an Iowa has a lower number than a Nevada which has a lower number than a Northampton, etc).
Which I find odd since the Iowa's were noted for their small tactical turning radius, indeed sometimes even to turn inside a DD!!