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19th November, 1941 HMAS Sydney lost with all hands after an encounter with the German Raider Kormeran 300 miles west of Perth, West Australia

Some people believe it was IJN sub that sunk Syndey, and I've read theories as far fetched as involving rogue waves and accidental ammo explosions (no UFOs or giant squids or Tesla Death Rays or Elvis so far, but someone somewhere is working on that I guess)

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Hi all,

ORIGINAL: trojan

19th November, 1941 HMAS Sydney lost with all hands after an encounter with the German Raider Kormeran 300 miles west of Perth, West Australia

IIRC this is still very controversial issue in Australia...


Leo "Apollo11"

Yes. Even to this day, her loss remains the most controversial single event in Australian naval history.

Michael

The only thing that sank the Sydney was the incompitence of her Captain in getting within 1000 yards of a ship he couldn't identify with her crew not at action stations lining the the rails taking in the view.

Didn't the Komeran have 5" guns? What a braodside.

6 x 5.9" guns as well as light 37 and 20mm AA and TT tubes, at a 1000 yards hard to miss

The first salvos knocked out the bridge and fire control, the light AA sweep the decks clean of exposed crew and a torpedo hit knocked out both forward turrets. The battle was over in the first 5 minutes

Didn't Sydney give an account of herself? Where can I read a good history about this?

Sounds like Captain Kirk in The Wrath of Khan! Dundeedumdeedoo. Abandon all SOPs.

http://www.world-war.co.uk . "The loss of the Sydney" is one among the very interesting stories you can find there.

ORIGINAL: Drex

Didn't Sydney give an account of herself? Where can I read a good history about this?

thanks for the link. Very interesting.

Were you referring to my quote Ron? Its from "Bridge on the River Kwai", Sussue Hayakawa was the actor.

i fact the sydney sank the raider , borh ships sunk euch other.

I cant recall exactly but it was i coincedence that was found out what really happend.

Well according to the link, there were German survivors, including the captain, who were later taken prisoners, and its their story that we hear. I don't think anyone say the Sydney sink though.

http://www.hmassydney.com.au/memorial.html

What counts.

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

Sounds like Captain Kirk in The Wrath of Khan! Dundeedumdeedoo. Abandon all SOPs.

KHAN!.........KHAN!............

[:D]

Yes, that is one of the strange things about the situation.

The Germans say she sailed off out of sight of them.

Michael

ORIGINAL: Drex

Well according to the link, there were German survivors, including the captain, who were later taken prisoners, and its their story that we hear. I don't think anyone say the Sydney sink though.

Not so much sailed, as drifted away listing and burning

i also say....



KHAAAANNNN!!! KHAAANNNNN!

[:D]


not to diminish the crew or show disrespect, but its kinda sad/pathetic that a Heavy Cruiser would be sunk by a little german raider

not to say that the raiders werent reasonably powerful for their size

perhaps she took a mag hit or sumthing[&:]

ill have to read the link lol